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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #123

    Yeah...

    The Brad

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    • LarryL Offline
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      Larry
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      #124

      We should NOT have to accept ballots being counted where the signatures don't match, or thousands of ballots that suddenly get "found" that came out of thin air in a state where the governor stated long before election day that Biden WOULD win his state.

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      • bachophileB bachophile

        Pennsylvania aside, I would agree that the election and voting stops on Election Day.

        The counting stops when you finish counting. That’s something I assume all would agree with.

        As for Pa, strong believers in states rights should support that the state has the right to accept votes until nov 6 if it so decides. The state Supreme Court supported it. And that was upheld by SCOTUS including the opinion of the Chief Justice.

        Don’t see the problem

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        Loki
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        #125

        @bachophile said in Calling the States:

        Pennsylvania aside, I would agree that the election and voting stops on Election Day.

        The counting stops when you finish counting. That’s something I assume all would agree with.

        As for Pa, strong believers in states rights should support that the state has the right to accept votes until nov 6 if it so decides. The state Supreme Court supported it. And that was upheld by SCOTUS including the opinion of the Chief Justice.

        Don’t see the problem

        Pennsylvania is a disagrace. Prompt election results are a critical component of an election. There is no excuse for how they decided to count. Almost every other state realized this. I don’t understand why you think it doesn’t matter

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        • bachophileB bachophile

          CNN just said Michigan is now blue

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          #126

          @bachophile said in Calling the States:

          CNN just said Michigan is now blue

          But not by much. According to my Google setup, it's 49.4% Biden and 49.1 Trump. I'm reading this at 9:42 AM EST.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • L Loki

            @bachophile said in Calling the States:

            Pennsylvania aside, I would agree that the election and voting stops on Election Day.

            The counting stops when you finish counting. That’s something I assume all would agree with.

            As for Pa, strong believers in states rights should support that the state has the right to accept votes until nov 6 if it so decides. The state Supreme Court supported it. And that was upheld by SCOTUS including the opinion of the Chief Justice.

            Don’t see the problem

            Pennsylvania is a disagrace. Prompt election results are a critical component of an election. There is no excuse for how they decided to count. Almost every other state realized this. I don’t understand why you think it doesn’t matter

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            #127

            @Loki said in Calling the States:

            @bachophile said in Calling the States:

            Pennsylvania aside, I would agree that the election and voting stops on Election Day.

            The counting stops when you finish counting. That’s something I assume all would agree with.

            As for Pa, strong believers in states rights should support that the state has the right to accept votes until nov 6 if it so decides. The state Supreme Court supported it. And that was upheld by SCOTUS including the opinion of the Chief Justice.

            Don’t see the problem

            Pennsylvania is a disagrace. Prompt election results are a critical component of an election. There is no excuse for how they decided to count. Almost every other state realized this. I don’t understand why you think it doesn’t matter

            au contraire, i think their system of tallying votes is totally fucked up. but there is a big difference between annoying and illegal

            the simple solution would be to have a federally mandated nation election law making one standard conforming system for all 50 states. oh, but that would violate the golden principle of independent state rights.

            cant have it both ways, if the states can decide, then they can be as annoying as they want to their citizenry. if its a national mandate, then the states will have to relinquish said right. dont think the republicans here would like that.

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            • LarryL Larry

              We should NOT have to accept ballots being counted where the signatures don't match, or thousands of ballots that suddenly get "found" that came out of thin air in a state where the governor stated long before election day that Biden WOULD win his state.

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              bachophile
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              #128

              @Larry

              i agree, no invalid votes. just count the legal ones.

              but those that think the there are thousands of invalid ones, please show the evidence

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              • bachophileB bachophile

                @Larry

                i agree, no invalid votes. just count the legal ones.

                but those that think the there are thousands of invalid ones, please show the evidence

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                #129

                @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                @Larry

                i agree, no invalid votes. just count the legal ones.

                but those that think the there are thousands of invalid ones, please show the evidence

                And there could be just as many fraud votes by Republics as Democrats.

                Democrats don’t hold the “evil“ card between the two parties and Republics don’t hold the “good” card when it comes to voting.

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                  A trove of 138K votes for Biden, and none for Trump were found.

                  Talk about landslide:

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                    #131

                    How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

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                      bachophile
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                      #132

                      But the whole world knew that there would be a rebound after the initial count

                      I knew it. And I have no political acumen. How can it be that he didn’t know?

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                      • bachophileB bachophile

                        How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

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                        @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                        How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                        I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

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                        • L Loki

                          @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                          How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                          I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

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                          bachophile
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                          @Loki

                          Absolutely. I find it ironic the United States sends observers to foreign countries to facilitate elections and they can’t get it right themselves.

                          But be that as it may, I agree results should be timely. But that’s not an excuse to say, well, your votes don’t count. Too bad. Let’s call it right now and ignore your votes.

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                          • L Loki

                            @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                            How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                            I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

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                            @Loki said in Calling the States:

                            @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                            How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                            I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                            As Mr. Hanlon said, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

                            I was only joking

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                              I had zero issue with Trump winning last night, until he went full moron that speech.

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                                kluurs
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                                • L Loki

                                  @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                                  How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                                  I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

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                                  xenon
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #138

                                  @Loki said in Calling the States:

                                  @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                                  How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                                  I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                                  I don’t think this country has ever had results on election night. Often it becomes “callable” based on partial results.

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                                  • X xenon

                                    @Loki said in Calling the States:

                                    @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                                    How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                                    I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                                    I don’t think this country has ever had results on election night. Often it becomes “callable” based on partial results.

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                                    taiwan_girl
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                                    @xenon said in Calling the States:

                                    @Loki said in Calling the States:

                                    @bachophile said in Calling the States:

                                    How can there be a massive conspiracy in four states involving hundreds of vote counters and not one scrap of evidence?

                                    I am not addressing conspiracy I am addressing the right for timely results. It’s unconscionable for some states to set up a mechanism where the counting isn’t over. It is as simple as that. People have a right to be LIVID

                                    I don’t think this country has ever had results on election night. Often it becomes “callable” based on partial results.

                                    Isn’t that why the inauguration used to be in March? Because of the time it took to finalize the voting Wayback a long time ago?

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                                      kluurs
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                                      Yup, each state has its own measures to certify the results of the election. There are no uniform dates for the states to certify results. Some states don't certify their results until December. Thus, the best one can do is project winners based on initial tabulations of the results.

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                                        bachophile
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                                        #141

                                        Nixon conceded to Kennedy on wed afternoon in 1960. Right now in the states it’s still wed morning. So this year is is still ahead of that.

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                                          @kluurs said in Calling the States:

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                                          That's clever.

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