Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.
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Yeah, it's another year, and another iPhone upgrade.
Looks like the iPhone 12 will come in 4 models
- The iPhone 12 - similar to the iPhone 11 in size, with better screen, better processor, better camera. Same size.
- The iPhone 12 pro - same as #1, but with improve 3 lens camera, etc.
- The iPhone 12 pro Max - same as #2 but bigger, with LiDar and better video processing
- The iPhone 12 mini - smallest phone. Nice large-ish screen. Same processor and features as the iphone 12.
MagSafe - magnetic charging for all the iPhone 12 models.
HomePod Mini - looks like a (more expensive) version of the Amazon Echo Dot, but with better speakers, probably. Of course, all integrated with the Apple ecosystem. Has room-to-room intercom, and the ability for "Siri" to respond from an iPhone, even if it's in your car.
I'll spring for the iPhone 12 mini. It's smaller than my iPhone 8, but with a bigger screen. HomePod mini? Intriguing, to be sure.
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Pretty lackluster. I'm on the yearly upgrade program - but I expect to forget after 2 days that it's a new phone.
Rumor has it they have a nice new feature built in (120Hz screen - which makes scrolling buttery smooth), but that AND 5G just killed the battery too much.
5G is just utterly useless.
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Agreed 5G is, for now, all hype. When you've got data caps, it's irrelevant.
However, my iPhone 8 died - swollen battery, so, I'm upgrading. The Mini looks like it'll meet all my needs, and fit into my back pocket better than my iPhone 8 did!
D4 has the 11. She said that she got used to the size in a week. Still too big for me!
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Agreed 5G is, for now, all hype. When you've got data caps, it's irrelevant.
However, my iPhone 8 died - swollen battery, so, I'm upgrading. The Mini looks like it'll meet all my needs, and fit into my back pocket better than my iPhone 8 did!
D4 has the 11. She said that she got used to the size in a week. Still too big for me!
@George-K yeah, I don't even see a single use case.
No one downloads gargantuan files on cellular. LTE is almost good enough for full 4K - which would be ridiculous on a 6 inch screen.
Maybe there's some use-case for super low latency... haven't really seen it for a smartphone.
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When Apple announced new products it used to be a big event. Now one clicks on the next story after 2 seconds.
@Klaus said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
When Apple announced new products it used to be a big event. Now one clicks on the next story after 2 seconds.
That's because there are no new products, just upgrades to existing ones.
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@Klaus said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
When Apple announced new products it used to be a big event. Now one clicks on the next story after 2 seconds.
That's because there are no new products, just upgrades to existing ones.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
That's because there are no new products, just upgrades to existing ones.
When's the last time Apple, Google or Microsoft introduced anything new?
The only thing that comes to mind is the Apple Watch. Yeah, it's a Fitbit on steroids, but it's not really an upgrade to the Fitbit - it's a computer on your wrist.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
That's because there are no new products, just upgrades to existing ones.
When's the last time Apple, Google or Microsoft introduced anything new?
The only thing that comes to mind is the Apple Watch. Yeah, it's a Fitbit on steroids, but it's not really an upgrade to the Fitbit - it's a computer on your wrist.
@George-K said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
That's because there are no new products, just upgrades to existing ones.
When's the last time Apple, Google or Microsoft introduced anything new?
The only thing that comes to mind is the Apple Watch. Yeah, it's a Fitbit on steroids, but it's not really an upgrade to the Fitbit - it's a computer on your wrist.
If they figure out a way to make the iPad Pro truly replace laptops, that'll be amazing. But so far that's still a pipe dream for many.
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@George-K said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
That's because there are no new products, just upgrades to existing ones.
When's the last time Apple, Google or Microsoft introduced anything new?
The only thing that comes to mind is the Apple Watch. Yeah, it's a Fitbit on steroids, but it's not really an upgrade to the Fitbit - it's a computer on your wrist.
If they figure out a way to make the iPad Pro truly replace laptops, that'll be amazing. But so far that's still a pipe dream for many.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
If they figure out a way to make the iPad Pro truly replace laptops, that'll be amazing.
Indeed.
I love my iPad Air 2. It's perfect for casual browsing, streaming a video from Netflix (or my Mac) while I lie in bed, etc. Playing a stupid game, yeah...
Serious content creation? Spreadsheets?
Nope. Gimme a Mac (or whatever). I've always considered them to be content consuming vs content creating.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Accessories is big business. Airpods alone would be a F500 company.
They’re trying to push services and subscriptions now too.
They don’t need new products to make money in new ways.
@xenon said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
They don’t need new products to make money in new ways.
I think that's it.
Jobs is probably rolling over, though.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
If they figure out a way to make the iPad Pro truly replace laptops, that'll be amazing.
Indeed.
I love my iPad Air 2. It's perfect for casual browsing, streaming a video from Netflix (or my Mac) while I lie in bed, etc. Playing a stupid game, yeah...
Serious content creation? Spreadsheets?
Nope. Gimme a Mac (or whatever). I've always considered them to be content consuming vs content creating.
@George-K said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
If they figure out a way to make the iPad Pro truly replace laptops, that'll be amazing.
Indeed.
I love my iPad Air 2. It's perfect for casual browsing, streaming a video from Netflix (or my Mac) while I lie in bed, etc. Playing a stupid game, yeah...
Serious content creation? Spreadsheets?
Nope. Gimme a Mac (or whatever). I've always considered them to be content consuming vs content creating.
If they'd allow you to dual-boot iOS/MacOS, I think that'd be it.
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Depends on the content you want to create. A TikTok video can be shot and posted entirely with just a phone.
@Axtremus said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
Depends on the content you want to create. A TikTok video can be shot and posted entirely with just a phone.
Are you trying to get promoted to Admiral Obvious there, Captain?
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@George-K I like the 12 mini too because it reminds me of my previous iPhone... 4 (I think?) that just was easier to use/scroll with one hand. Then I went iPhone 6, and now am on iPhone X and have gotten used to the size. But still, I remember the 4.
However (plot twist) I don't think I'll go with the 12 mini just because I use my phone for a ton of videos/photos with the (almost) 2 kids I would love the extra photo gadgets that come with the 12 Pro. I think I'll do without the case this time, so that might make the phone easier to hold, and am glad the flat sides are back.
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@George-K yeah, I don't even see a single use case.
No one downloads gargantuan files on cellular. LTE is almost good enough for full 4K - which would be ridiculous on a 6 inch screen.
Maybe there's some use-case for super low latency... haven't really seen it for a smartphone.
@xenon said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
@George-K yeah, I don't even see a single use case.
No one downloads gargantuan files on cellular. LTE is almost good enough for full 4K - which would be ridiculous on a 6 inch screen.
Maybe there's some use-case for super low latency... haven't really seen it for a smartphone.
I think the main reason for 5G isn't its maximum speed, but the speed it can deliver when many users use the same tower concurrently. If you sit in an airport and 300 people use the same mobile access point, then you need to divide the max speed by 300.
That said, I agree that 5G isn't very useful at the moment.
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BTW...been thinking about getting the iPad Air w/Magic Keyboard. My wife is in need of a laptop replacement and she's hinted an iPad would probably be sufficient for what she uses her laptop for these days...which is not much.
@89th said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
My wife is in need of a laptop replacement and she's hinted an iPad would probably be sufficient for what she uses her laptop for these days...which is not much.
I saw a MacBook Air for $850 at Amazon yesterday. If it were me, given either/or, I'd go with that over an iPad.
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@xenon said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
@George-K yeah, I don't even see a single use case.
No one downloads gargantuan files on cellular. LTE is almost good enough for full 4K - which would be ridiculous on a 6 inch screen.
Maybe there's some use-case for super low latency... haven't really seen it for a smartphone.
I think the main reason for 5G isn't its maximum speed, but the speed it can deliver when many users use the same tower concurrently. If you sit in an airport and 300 people use the same mobile access point, then you need to divide the max speed by 300.
That said, I agree that 5G isn't very useful at the moment.
@Klaus said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
@xenon said in Apple announces new iPhones and stuff.:
@George-K yeah, I don't even see a single use case.
No one downloads gargantuan files on cellular. LTE is almost good enough for full 4K - which would be ridiculous on a 6 inch screen.
Maybe there's some use-case for super low latency... haven't really seen it for a smartphone.
I think the main reason for 5G isn't its maximum speed, but the speed it can deliver when many users use the same tower concurrently. If you sit in an airport and 300 people use the same mobile access point, then you need to divide the max speed by 300.
That said, I agree that 5G isn't very useful at the moment.
Right - but even that is an argument for lowering wireless carrier capex rather than a novel new end-user experience. With enough LTE access points, even dense gathers can have good coverage - it's a matter of infrastructure outlay.
