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Discharge tomorrow?

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Remember the exploding heads when it came out that Hillary yelled at secret service agents?

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    @jon-nyc said in Discharge tomorrow?:

    Remember the exploding heads when it came out that Hillary yelled at secret service agents?

    From everything I've heard, Trump treats his pretty well with the exception of some pretty ungodly hours.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @Loki said in Discharge tomorrow?:

      Trump did a standing vigorous video followed up by a motorcade drive by for his supporters.

      Walter Reed attending physician.

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      #49

      @jon-nyc said in Discharge tomorrow?:

      @Loki said in Discharge tomorrow?:

      Trump did a standing vigorous video followed up by a motorcade drive by for his supporters.

      Walter Reed attending physician.

      Attending physician:

      "In the United States and Canada, an attending physician is a physician who has completed residency and practices medicine in a clinic or hospital, in the specialty learned during residency. An attending physician typically supervises fellows, residents, medical students, and other practitioners. Attending physicians may also maintain professorships at an affiliated medical school. This is common if the supervision of trainees is a significant part of the physician's work. Attending physicians have final responsibility, legally and otherwise, for patient care, even when many of the minute-to-minute decisions are being made by house officers or Advanced Practice Providers. Attending physicians are sometimes the 'rendering physician' listed on the patient's official medical record, but if they are overseeing a resident or another staff member, they are 'supervising."

      The good doctor did his residency in Emergency Medicine. He is neither an infectious disease expert or the President's physician.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Aqua Letifer
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        #50

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        Please love yourself.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          #51

          We're still talking acceptable losses.

          There is NO way to make things 100% safe. Not, and have an econony...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • AxtremusA Away
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            Axtremus
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            @Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:

            We're still talking acceptable losses.

            You're talking acceptable losses of human lives for completely unnecessary photo-op.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:

              We're still talking acceptable losses.

              You're talking acceptable losses of human lives for completely unnecessary photo-op.

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              @Axtremus said in Discharge tomorrow?:

              @Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:

              We're still talking acceptable losses.

              You're talking acceptable losses of human lives for completely unnecessary photo-op.

              And where did you get your medical degree?

              WalMart?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Rainman
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                #54

                HEY!
                Ax don't need a medical degree or anything else.
                He has more smarts in his little finger than all the smartest people on this forum rolled into a big smartglob of goo.
                So there.
                Don't let anyone get to you Ax, stay in your world and just keep us updated when you can.
                We really appreciate it.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #55

                  Is it just me, or are we all in the middle of some extra-shit Reality TV show?

                  I was only joking

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @jon-nyc said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                    @Loki said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                    Trump did a standing vigorous video followed up by a motorcade drive by for his supporters.

                    Walter Reed attending physician.

                    Attending physician:

                    "In the United States and Canada, an attending physician is a physician who has completed residency and practices medicine in a clinic or hospital, in the specialty learned during residency. An attending physician typically supervises fellows, residents, medical students, and other practitioners. Attending physicians may also maintain professorships at an affiliated medical school. This is common if the supervision of trainees is a significant part of the physician's work. Attending physicians have final responsibility, legally and otherwise, for patient care, even when many of the minute-to-minute decisions are being made by house officers or Advanced Practice Providers. Attending physicians are sometimes the 'rendering physician' listed on the patient's official medical record, but if they are overseeing a resident or another staff member, they are 'supervising."

                    The good doctor did his residency in Emergency Medicine. He is neither an infectious disease expert or the President's physician.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      At his age, with his comorbidities, he could get real bad, real fast.

                      With FLOTUS, not so much.

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                      @Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                      At his age, with his comorbidities, he could get real bad, real fast.

                      With FLOTUS, not so much.

                      You know, if Harris wins in 2024 (or takes over if Biden kicks the bucket early), her husband will be the FGOTUS. That sucks.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        Is it just me, or are we all in the middle of some extra-shit Reality TV show?

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                        Is it just me, or are we all in the middle of some extra-shit Reality TV show?

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                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          We're still talking acceptable losses.

                          There is NO way to make things 100% safe. Not, and have an econony...

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                          @Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                          We're still talking acceptable losses.

                          There is NO way to make things 100% safe. Not, and have an econony...

                          Here, let me help a little.

                          "Acceptable losses for the good of the economy" is a consequentialist position.

                          "You shouldn't wish death on anyone" is an argument founded on moral absolutism.

                          If you pick one because Trump's your hero and you pick another because screw old people and the otherwise healthy adults who died that you completely ignore because it doesn't fit your narrative, it means you're better at emoting than you are at critical thinking.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            Have a nice night, lad.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Nah, I think I'll come back to this one...One can be pretty damn moral, yet still accept human death.

                              Go figure that one out.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                Nah, I think I'll come back to this one...One can be pretty damn moral, yet still accept human death.

                                Go figure that one out.

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                                @Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                                Nah, I think I'll come back to this one...One can be pretty damn moral, yet still accept human death.

                                Go figure that one out.

                                I get that. I also get that it's impossible to keep the whole of humanity from being affected by the virus. The thing I posted however relates to a certain contingent of the population who cares more about the life of one person than the life of thousands because their beliefs are feeble. Which is ridiculous.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @jon-nyc said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                                  @Loki said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                                  Trump did a standing vigorous video followed up by a motorcade drive by for his supporters.

                                  Walter Reed attending physician.

                                  Attending physician:

                                  "In the United States and Canada, an attending physician is a physician who has completed residency and practices medicine in a clinic or hospital, in the specialty learned during residency. An attending physician typically supervises fellows, residents, medical students, and other practitioners. Attending physicians may also maintain professorships at an affiliated medical school. This is common if the supervision of trainees is a significant part of the physician's work. Attending physicians have final responsibility, legally and otherwise, for patient care, even when many of the minute-to-minute decisions are being made by house officers or Advanced Practice Providers. Attending physicians are sometimes the 'rendering physician' listed on the patient's official medical record, but if they are overseeing a resident or another staff member, they are 'supervising."

                                  The good doctor did his residency in Emergency Medicine. He is neither an infectious disease expert or the President's physician.

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                                  @Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                                  The good doctor did his residency in Emergency Medicine. He is neither an infectious disease expert or the President's physician.

                                  He's also a CNN "Medical Consultant."

                                  As I've mentioned before talking about some of Fox's "medical consultants," these guys should stick to what they know. The Fox lady is a radiologist. I have no idea how good/bad of a photon watcher she is, but I would take anything she says about treatment of the virus with a grain of salt.

                                  This guy, as Jolly points out, is an ER doc (remember when ER docs were lambasted here for giving their opinions on the virus?). He's probably a good ER doc. Is he aware of decision-making that went into this, what precautions were taken? Probably not.

                                  That said, I think it was a bone-headed and stupid move. Just another unforced error by the Trump White House. It would have been far better, and aroused fewer heads exploding had he finished his course of treatment and be video-ed leaving Marine One on the South Lawn.

                                  An aside, in a photo, POTUS is wearing a black mask. Presumably that's a cloth mask. Why not a N95 mask, which this clearly is not?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    @Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                                    The good doctor did his residency in Emergency Medicine. He is neither an infectious disease expert or the President's physician.

                                    He's also a CNN "Medical Consultant."

                                    As I've mentioned before talking about some of Fox's "medical consultants," these guys should stick to what they know. The Fox lady is a radiologist. I have no idea how good/bad of a photon watcher she is, but I would take anything she says about treatment of the virus with a grain of salt.

                                    This guy, as Jolly points out, is an ER doc (remember when ER docs were lambasted here for giving their opinions on the virus?). He's probably a good ER doc. Is he aware of decision-making that went into this, what precautions were taken? Probably not.

                                    That said, I think it was a bone-headed and stupid move. Just another unforced error by the Trump White House. It would have been far better, and aroused fewer heads exploding had he finished his course of treatment and be video-ed leaving Marine One on the South Lawn.

                                    An aside, in a photo, POTUS is wearing a black mask. Presumably that's a cloth mask. Why not a N95 mask, which this clearly is not?

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    @George-K said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                                    @Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                                    The good doctor did his residency in Emergency Medicine. He is neither an infectious disease expert or the President's physician.

                                    He's also a CNN "Medical Consultant."

                                    As I've mentioned before talking about some of Fox's "medical consultants," these guys should stick to what they know. The Fox lady is a radiologist. I have no idea how good/bad of a photon watcher she is, but I would take anything she says about treatment of the virus with a grain of salt.

                                    This guy, as Jolly points out, is an ER doc (remember when ER docs were lambasted here for giving their opinions on the virus?). He's probably a good ER doc. Is he aware of decision-making that went into this, what precautions were taken? Probably not.

                                    That said, I think it was a bone-headed and stupid move. Just another unforced error by the Trump White House. It would have been far better, and aroused fewer heads exploding had he finished his course of treatment and be video-ed leaving Marine One on the South Lawn.

                                    An aside, in a photo, POTUS is wearing a black mask. Presumably that's a cloth mask. Why not a N95 mask, which this clearly is not?

                                    Why bother shooting the messenger just to agree with him in the end?

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @George-K said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                                      @Jolly said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                                      The good doctor did his residency in Emergency Medicine. He is neither an infectious disease expert or the President's physician.

                                      He's also a CNN "Medical Consultant."

                                      As I've mentioned before talking about some of Fox's "medical consultants," these guys should stick to what they know. The Fox lady is a radiologist. I have no idea how good/bad of a photon watcher she is, but I would take anything she says about treatment of the virus with a grain of salt.

                                      This guy, as Jolly points out, is an ER doc (remember when ER docs were lambasted here for giving their opinions on the virus?). He's probably a good ER doc. Is he aware of decision-making that went into this, what precautions were taken? Probably not.

                                      That said, I think it was a bone-headed and stupid move. Just another unforced error by the Trump White House. It would have been far better, and aroused fewer heads exploding had he finished his course of treatment and be video-ed leaving Marine One on the South Lawn.

                                      An aside, in a photo, POTUS is wearing a black mask. Presumably that's a cloth mask. Why not a N95 mask, which this clearly is not?

                                      Why bother shooting the messenger just to agree with him in the end?

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                                      Why bother shooting the messenger just to agree with him in the end?

                                      Did I agree with him? Perhaps you're referring to my comment about the N95 mask?

                                      I just said it was a stupid move. I didn't clarify that it was about the optics.

                                      I have no knowledge how dangerous it was, and presumably, neither does he, other than hearsay and his experience as an ER doc.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        So you’re not willing to go out on a limb to say that sharing a special hermetically sealed car interior with a Covid patient is risky? Or are you hanging your hat on the fact that no one can precisely quantify the risk?

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          So you’re not willing to go out on a limb to say that sharing a special hermetically sealed car interior with a Covid patient is risky? Or are you hanging your hat on the fact that no one can precisely quantify the risk?

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Discharge tomorrow?:

                                          So you’re not willing to go out on a limb to say that sharing a special hermetically sealed car interior with a Covid patient is risky? Or are you hanging your hat on the fact that no one can precisely quantify the risk?

                                          Sure, I'll go there. But I'm no expert, and neither is Phillips.

                                          I would think that the docs attending Trump considered all that. I would trust their opinion more than his. AFAIK, he's never laid eyes on Trump.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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