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  • KlausK Klaus

    Ah, come on, Larry, there is no conceivable way the debate could have went in which you would have come to a different conclusion. This makes reading your reactions to it a little boring.

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    Larry
    wrote on last edited by
    #132

    @Klaus said in 1st President Debate:

    Ah, come on, Larry, there is no conceivable way the debate could have went in which you would have come to a different conclusion. This makes reading your reactions to it a little boring.

    Then don't read them, because I'm not going to drop half my brain just to make you happy.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

      @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

      @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

      Hey @Larry, try this:

      Trump 👎 👎 :

      • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
      • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

      Biden 👍 👍 :

      • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
      • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

      Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

      No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

      Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

      You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

      Here are the tenants of the organization:

      Core Values Of The Proud Boys
      Minimal Government
      Maximum Freedom
      Anti-Political Correctness
      Anti-Drug War
      Closed Borders
      Anti-Racial Guilt
      Anti-Racism
      Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
      Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
      Glorifying the Entrepreneur
      Venerating the Housewife
      Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

      Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.” We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

      As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

      So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

      LarryL Offline
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      Larry
      wrote on last edited by
      #133

      @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

      @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

      @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

      @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

      Hey @Larry, try this:

      Trump 👎 👎 :

      • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
      • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

      Biden 👍 👍 :

      • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
      • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

      Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

      No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

      Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

      You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

      Here are the tenants of the organization:

      Core Values Of The Proud Boys
      Minimal Government
      Maximum Freedom
      Anti-Political Correctness
      Anti-Drug War
      Closed Borders
      Anti-Racial Guilt
      Anti-Racism
      Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
      Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
      Glorifying the Entrepreneur
      Venerating the Housewife
      Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

      Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.” We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

      As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

      So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

      Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        #134

        The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

        If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          That’s a point.

          AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
          wrote on last edited by
          #135

          @jon-nyc said in 1st President Debate:

          That’s a point.

          Has he considered Joe Rogan?

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          • LarryL Larry

            @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

            @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

            @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

            @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

            Hey @Larry, try this:

            Trump 👎 👎 :

            • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
            • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

            Biden 👍 👍 :

            • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
            • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

            Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

            No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

            Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

            You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

            Here are the tenants of the organization:

            Core Values Of The Proud Boys
            Minimal Government
            Maximum Freedom
            Anti-Political Correctness
            Anti-Drug War
            Closed Borders
            Anti-Racial Guilt
            Anti-Racism
            Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
            Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
            Glorifying the Entrepreneur
            Venerating the Housewife
            Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

            Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.” We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

            As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

            So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

            Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

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            xenon
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            #136

            @Larry said in 1st President Debate:

            @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

            @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

            @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

            @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

            Hey @Larry, try this:

            Trump 👎 👎 :

            • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
            • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

            Biden 👍 👍 :

            • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
            • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

            Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

            No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

            Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

            You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

            Here are the tenants of the organization:

            Core Values Of The Proud Boys
            Minimal Government
            Maximum Freedom
            Anti-Political Correctness
            Anti-Drug War
            Closed Borders
            Anti-Racial Guilt
            Anti-Racism
            Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
            Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
            Glorifying the Entrepreneur
            Venerating the Housewife
            Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

            Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.” We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

            As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

            So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

            Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

            He said he doesn’t know who they are today:

            “I don’t know who the Proud Boys are. You’ll have to give me a definition, because I really don’t know who they are. I can only say they have to stand down.”

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              @George-K said in 1st President Debate:

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              Taiwan uses microphone muting during debates.

              Regarding last night debate, in speaking with friends who watched in Germany, Thailand, and Taiwan, the response was "embarrassment" for the US.

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #139

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                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    I want my Empire back.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                      If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

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                      @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                      The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                      If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

                      I'm Western European, and they can go fuck themselves and so can people who support them.

                      Pro-white - Jesus Christ, has it come to this?

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #142

                        The idea that we could re-racialize our society only for non-whites was always as unrealistic as it was obscene.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                          The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                          If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

                          I'm Western European, and they can go fuck themselves and so can people who support them.

                          Pro-white - Jesus Christ, has it come to this?

                          JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          #143

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in 1st President Debate:

                          @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                          The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                          If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

                          I'm Western European, and they can go fuck themselves and so can people who support them.

                          Pro-white - Jesus Christ, has it come to this?

                          Yep.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              The idea that we could re-racialize our society only for non-whites was always as unrealistic as it was obscene.

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                              @jon-nyc said in 1st President Debate:

                              The idea that we could re-racialize our society only for non-whites was always as ridiculous as it was obscene.

                              It has proven anything but ridiculous for the purposes of motivating/manipulating the masses, including, or maybe especially, the white masses. Obscene, yes, of course.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                Funny as you were posting I changed 'ridiculous' to 'unrealistic'. Which is closer to the point I was trying to make.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  There's no future in it, but enough of one to satisfy a lifetime of power mongering for generations of progressives.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Republicans to Trump: Condemn white supremacy now
                                    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/30/chris-christie-defends-trump-debate-423610

                                    — —
                                    Senate Republicans spent much of Wednesday pressing President Donald Trump to denounce white supremacy, with few in the GOP willing to explicitly defend his refusal to do so during Tuesday’s presidential debate.
                                    ...
                                    In a series of interviews and public statements Wednesday, Senate Republicans pushed Trump to clarify his comments, with party leaders and the rank-and-file eager to put distance between themselves and the president’s stance.

                                    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said that he shared the same views as Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), the only black GOP senator, who urged the president to correct his comments.
                                    ...
                                    GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham, a close Trump ally, also aligned himself with his South Carolina colleague, tweeting that he agrees with "President Trump needing to make it clear Proud Boys is a racist organization antithetical to American ideals.”
                                    ...
                                    — —

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                                      Speaking of manipulating the masses.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Politics.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          Republicans to Trump: Condemn white supremacy now
                                          https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/30/chris-christie-defends-trump-debate-423610

                                          — —
                                          Senate Republicans spent much of Wednesday pressing President Donald Trump to denounce white supremacy, with few in the GOP willing to explicitly defend his refusal to do so during Tuesday’s presidential debate.
                                          ...
                                          In a series of interviews and public statements Wednesday, Senate Republicans pushed Trump to clarify his comments, with party leaders and the rank-and-file eager to put distance between themselves and the president’s stance.

                                          Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said that he shared the same views as Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), the only black GOP senator, who urged the president to correct his comments.
                                          ...
                                          GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham, a close Trump ally, also aligned himself with his South Carolina colleague, tweeting that he agrees with "President Trump needing to make it clear Proud Boys is a racist organization antithetical to American ideals.”
                                          ...
                                          — —

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                                          @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                                          Republicans to Trump: Condemn white supremacy now
                                          https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/30/chris-christie-defends-trump-debate-423610

                                          — —
                                          Senate Republicans spent much of Wednesday pressing President Donald Trump to denounce white supremacy, with few in the GOP willing to explicitly defend his refusal to do so during Tuesday’s presidential debate.
                                          ...
                                          In a series of interviews and public statements Wednesday, Senate Republicans pushed Trump to clarify his comments, with party leaders and the rank-and-file eager to put distance between themselves and the president’s stance.

                                          Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said that he shared the same views as Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), the only black GOP senator, who urged the president to correct his comments.
                                          ...
                                          GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham, a close Trump ally, also aligned himself with his South Carolina colleague, tweeting that he agrees with "President Trump needing to make it clear Proud Boys is a racist organization antithetical to American ideals.”
                                          ...
                                          — —

                                          Just on a whim...Explain to me how a group which contains Asians and blacks is a white supremacist group? And while you're at it, would you tell me how many cities they have tried to burn down?

                                          I think they are Far Right, but I'm not convinced they are white supremacist.

                                          Now, having said that, I'd like for you to defend the Senile Man's statement about antifa being an idea, not an organization. I'm kinda confused on how an idea can make Molotov cocktails and try to burn down a city?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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