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  • A Axtremus
    30 Sept 2020, 20:44

    Hey @Larry, try this:

    Trump 👎 👎 :

    • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
    • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

    Biden 👍 👍 :

    • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
    • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters
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    Larry
    wrote on 30 Sept 2020, 22:45 last edited by
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    @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

    Hey @Larry, try this:

    Trump 👎 👎 :

    • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
    • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

    Biden 👍 👍 :

    • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
    • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

    Trump didn't refuse to condemn white supremacists, in fact he did so 3 times when Wallace was asking him about the Proud Boys. Trump had never heard of them. Neither had I. But you stupid Socialists call EVERY white person a white supremacist, so Trump was trying to avoid condemning a group that might not have been bad. He has over the last 4 years condemned racist groups, hate groups, racism over and over again, but idiots like you just keep accusing him of it anyway. So shove that one up your ass. As for being "unamerican..., that's about as dumb as it gets. Trump is more pro America than any of them. "Not respecting the will of the voters"... Jesus are you really that fucking stupid or are you just seeing how big of an ass hat you can be?

    This is why none of you fucking democrats are worth a shit.

    As for your two Biden points, you are a fool.

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    • K Klaus
      30 Sept 2020, 20:24

      Ah, come on, Larry, there is no conceivable way the debate could have went in which you would have come to a different conclusion. This makes reading your reactions to it a little boring.

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      Larry
      wrote on 30 Sept 2020, 22:48 last edited by
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      @Klaus said in 1st President Debate:

      Ah, come on, Larry, there is no conceivable way the debate could have went in which you would have come to a different conclusion. This makes reading your reactions to it a little boring.

      Then don't read them, because I'm not going to drop half my brain just to make you happy.

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      • J Jolly
        30 Sept 2020, 21:59

        @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

        @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

        @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

        Hey @Larry, try this:

        Trump 👎 👎 :

        • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
        • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

        Biden 👍 👍 :

        • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
        • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

        Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

        No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

        Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

        You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

        Here are the tenants of the organization:

        Core Values Of The Proud Boys
        Minimal Government
        Maximum Freedom
        Anti-Political Correctness
        Anti-Drug War
        Closed Borders
        Anti-Racial Guilt
        Anti-Racism
        Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
        Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
        Glorifying the Entrepreneur
        Venerating the Housewife
        Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

        Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.” We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

        As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

        So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

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        Larry
        wrote on 30 Sept 2020, 22:52 last edited by
        #133

        @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

        @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

        @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

        @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

        Hey @Larry, try this:

        Trump 👎 👎 :

        • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
        • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

        Biden 👍 👍 :

        • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
        • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

        Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

        No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

        Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

        You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

        Here are the tenants of the organization:

        Core Values Of The Proud Boys
        Minimal Government
        Maximum Freedom
        Anti-Political Correctness
        Anti-Drug War
        Closed Borders
        Anti-Racial Guilt
        Anti-Racism
        Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
        Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
        Glorifying the Entrepreneur
        Venerating the Housewife
        Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

        Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.” We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

        As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

        So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

        Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

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          Jolly
          wrote on 30 Sept 2020, 23:39 last edited by
          #134

          The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

          If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J jon-nyc
            30 Sept 2020, 02:56

            That’s a point.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 01:40 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in 1st President Debate:

            That’s a point.

            Has he considered Joe Rogan?

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            • L Larry
              30 Sept 2020, 22:52

              @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

              @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

              @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

              @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

              Hey @Larry, try this:

              Trump 👎 👎 :

              • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
              • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

              Biden 👍 👍 :

              • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
              • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

              Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

              No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

              Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

              You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

              Here are the tenants of the organization:

              Core Values Of The Proud Boys
              Minimal Government
              Maximum Freedom
              Anti-Political Correctness
              Anti-Drug War
              Closed Borders
              Anti-Racial Guilt
              Anti-Racism
              Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
              Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
              Glorifying the Entrepreneur
              Venerating the Housewife
              Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

              Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.” We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

              As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

              So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

              Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

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              xenon
              wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 01:43 last edited by
              #136

              @Larry said in 1st President Debate:

              @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

              @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

              @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

              @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

              Hey @Larry, try this:

              Trump 👎 👎 :

              • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
              • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

              Biden 👍 👍 :

              • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
              • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

              Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

              No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

              Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

              You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

              Here are the tenants of the organization:

              Core Values Of The Proud Boys
              Minimal Government
              Maximum Freedom
              Anti-Political Correctness
              Anti-Drug War
              Closed Borders
              Anti-Racial Guilt
              Anti-Racism
              Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
              Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
              Glorifying the Entrepreneur
              Venerating the Housewife
              Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

              Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.” We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

              As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

              So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

              Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

              He said he doesn’t know who they are today:

              “I don’t know who the Proud Boys are. You’ll have to give me a definition, because I really don’t know who they are. I can only say they have to stand down.”

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                30 Sept 2020, 17:37

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                taiwan_girl
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                @George-K said in 1st President Debate:

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                Taiwan uses microphone muting during debates.

                Regarding last night debate, in speaking with friends who watched in Germany, Thailand, and Taiwan, the response was "embarrassment" for the US.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 03:43 last edited by
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                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      I want my Empire back.

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                      • J Jolly
                        30 Sept 2020, 23:39

                        The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                        If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 03:50 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                        The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                        If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

                        I'm Western European, and they can go fuck themselves and so can people who support them.

                        Pro-white - Jesus Christ, has it come to this?

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 04:00 last edited by jon-nyc 10 Jan 2020, 04:08
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                          The idea that we could re-racialize our society only for non-whites was always as unrealistic as it was obscene.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            1 Oct 2020, 03:50

                            @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                            The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                            If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

                            I'm Western European, and they can go fuck themselves and so can people who support them.

                            Pro-white - Jesus Christ, has it come to this?

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 04:02 last edited by
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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in 1st President Debate:

                            @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                            The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                            If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

                            I'm Western European, and they can go fuck themselves and so can people who support them.

                            Pro-white - Jesus Christ, has it come to this?

                            Yep.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                1 Oct 2020, 04:00

                                The idea that we could re-racialize our society only for non-whites was always as unrealistic as it was obscene.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 04:08 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in 1st President Debate:

                                The idea that we could re-racialize our society only for non-whites was always as ridiculous as it was obscene.

                                It has proven anything but ridiculous for the purposes of motivating/manipulating the masses, including, or maybe especially, the white masses. Obscene, yes, of course.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 04:09 last edited by
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                                  Funny as you were posting I changed 'ridiculous' to 'unrealistic'. Which is closer to the point I was trying to make.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                                    wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 04:11 last edited by
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                                    There's no future in it, but enough of one to satisfy a lifetime of power mongering for generations of progressives.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 04:28 last edited by
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                                      Republicans to Trump: Condemn white supremacy now
                                      https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/30/chris-christie-defends-trump-debate-423610

                                      — —
                                      Senate Republicans spent much of Wednesday pressing President Donald Trump to denounce white supremacy, with few in the GOP willing to explicitly defend his refusal to do so during Tuesday’s presidential debate.
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                                      In a series of interviews and public statements Wednesday, Senate Republicans pushed Trump to clarify his comments, with party leaders and the rank-and-file eager to put distance between themselves and the president’s stance.

                                      Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said that he shared the same views as Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), the only black GOP senator, who urged the president to correct his comments.
                                      ...
                                      GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham, a close Trump ally, also aligned himself with his South Carolina colleague, tweeting that he agrees with "President Trump needing to make it clear Proud Boys is a racist organization antithetical to American ideals.”
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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 04:40 last edited by
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                                        Speaking of manipulating the masses.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          wrote on 1 Oct 2020, 08:04 last edited by
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                                          Politics.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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