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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #120

    Efficacy data is weeks away. Not decent safety data.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by
      #121

      James Woods' opinion is almost as important to me as that of Captain Sully Chesney.

      I was only joking

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      • LarryL Offline
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        Larry
        wrote on last edited by
        #122

        Maybe so, but he nailed it just the same.

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        • KlausK Offline
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          Klaus
          wrote on last edited by
          #123

          Ah, come on, Larry, there is no conceivable way the debate could have went in which you would have come to a different conclusion. This makes reading your reactions to it a little boring.

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
            wrote on last edited by
            #124

            Hey @Larry, try this:

            Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

            • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
            • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

            Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

            • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
            • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters
            JollyJ LarryL 2 Replies Last reply
            • LarryL Larry

              Maybe so, but he nailed it just the same.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #125

              @Larry said in 1st President Debate:

              Maybe so, but he nailed it just the same.

              I just looked at his Twitter feed. There's a guy with a lot of time on his hands.

              I was only joking

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Remember Nixon looked a little sweaty in his debate and it was talked about for decades.

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #126

                @jon-nyc said in 1st President Debate:

                Remember Nixon looked a little sweaty in his debate and it was talked about for decades.

                And Kennedy didn't, because he wore wore make-up.

                โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Hey @Larry, try this:

                  Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                  • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                  • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                  Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                  • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                  • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters
                  JollyJ Offline
                  JollyJ Offline
                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #127

                  @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                  Hey @Larry, try this:

                  Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                  • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                  • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                  Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                  • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                  • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                  Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                  โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

                  AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                    Hey @Larry, try this:

                    Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                    • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                    • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                    Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                    • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                    • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                    Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                    AxtremusA Offline
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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #128

                    @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                    @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                    Hey @Larry, try this:

                    Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                    • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                    • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                    Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                    • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                    • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                    Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                    No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

                    Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

                    JollyJ CopperC 2 Replies Last reply
                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                      @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                      Hey @Larry, try this:

                      Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                      • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                      • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                      Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                      • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                      • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                      Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                      No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

                      Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

                      JollyJ Offline
                      JollyJ Offline
                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #129

                      @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                      @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                      @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                      Hey @Larry, try this:

                      Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                      • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                      • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                      Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                      • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                      • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                      Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                      No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

                      Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

                      You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

                      Here are the tenants of the organization:

                      Core Values Of The Proud Boys
                      Minimal Government
                      Maximum Freedom
                      Anti-Political Correctness
                      Anti-Drug War
                      Closed Borders
                      Anti-Racial Guilt
                      Anti-Racism
                      Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
                      Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
                      Glorifying the Entrepreneur
                      Venerating the Housewife
                      Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

                      Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is โ€œa Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.โ€ We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an โ€œismโ€, โ€œistโ€, or โ€œphobicโ€ that fits the Leftโ€™s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

                      As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

                      So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

                      โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

                      LarryL 1 Reply Last reply
                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                        @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                        Hey @Larry, try this:

                        Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                        • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                        • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                        Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                        • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                        • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                        Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                        No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

                        Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

                        CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
                        wrote on last edited by Copper
                        #130

                        @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                        Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

                        Mr. Trump is the only president since 2009 that likes the United States.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          Hey @Larry, try this:

                          Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                          • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                          • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                          Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                          • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                          • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters
                          LarryL Offline
                          LarryL Offline
                          Larry
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #131

                          @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                          Hey @Larry, try this:

                          Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                          • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                          • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                          Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                          • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                          • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                          Trump didn't refuse to condemn white supremacists, in fact he did so 3 times when Wallace was asking him about the Proud Boys. Trump had never heard of them. Neither had I. But you stupid Socialists call EVERY white person a white supremacist, so Trump was trying to avoid condemning a group that might not have been bad. He has over the last 4 years condemned racist groups, hate groups, racism over and over again, but idiots like you just keep accusing him of it anyway. So shove that one up your ass. As for being "unamerican..., that's about as dumb as it gets. Trump is more pro America than any of them. "Not respecting the will of the voters"... Jesus are you really that fucking stupid or are you just seeing how big of an ass hat you can be?

                          This is why none of you fucking democrats are worth a shit.

                          As for your two Biden points, you are a fool.

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                          • KlausK Klaus

                            Ah, come on, Larry, there is no conceivable way the debate could have went in which you would have come to a different conclusion. This makes reading your reactions to it a little boring.

                            LarryL Offline
                            LarryL Offline
                            Larry
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #132

                            @Klaus said in 1st President Debate:

                            Ah, come on, Larry, there is no conceivable way the debate could have went in which you would have come to a different conclusion. This makes reading your reactions to it a little boring.

                            Then don't read them, because I'm not going to drop half my brain just to make you happy.

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                              @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                              @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                              Hey @Larry, try this:

                              Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                              • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                              • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                              Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                              • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                              • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                              Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                              No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

                              Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

                              You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

                              Here are the tenants of the organization:

                              Core Values Of The Proud Boys
                              Minimal Government
                              Maximum Freedom
                              Anti-Political Correctness
                              Anti-Drug War
                              Closed Borders
                              Anti-Racial Guilt
                              Anti-Racism
                              Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
                              Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
                              Glorifying the Entrepreneur
                              Venerating the Housewife
                              Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

                              Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is โ€œa Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.โ€ We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an โ€œismโ€, โ€œistโ€, or โ€œphobicโ€ that fits the Leftโ€™s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

                              As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

                              So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

                              LarryL Offline
                              LarryL Offline
                              Larry
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #133

                              @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                              @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                              @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                              @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                              Hey @Larry, try this:

                              Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                              • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                              • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                              Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                              • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                              • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                              Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                              No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

                              Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

                              You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

                              Here are the tenants of the organization:

                              Core Values Of The Proud Boys
                              Minimal Government
                              Maximum Freedom
                              Anti-Political Correctness
                              Anti-Drug War
                              Closed Borders
                              Anti-Racial Guilt
                              Anti-Racism
                              Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
                              Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
                              Glorifying the Entrepreneur
                              Venerating the Housewife
                              Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

                              Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is โ€œa Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.โ€ We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an โ€œismโ€, โ€œistโ€, or โ€œphobicโ€ that fits the Leftโ€™s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

                              As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

                              So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

                              Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #134

                                The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                                If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

                                โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Thatโ€™s a point.

                                  AxtremusA Offline
                                  AxtremusA Offline
                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #135

                                  @jon-nyc said in 1st President Debate:

                                  Thatโ€™s a point.

                                  Has he considered Joe Rogan?

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                                  • LarryL Larry

                                    @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                                    @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                                    @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                                    @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                                    Hey @Larry, try this:

                                    Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                                    • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                                    • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                                    Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                                    • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                                    • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                                    Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                                    No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

                                    Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

                                    You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

                                    Here are the tenants of the organization:

                                    Core Values Of The Proud Boys
                                    Minimal Government
                                    Maximum Freedom
                                    Anti-Political Correctness
                                    Anti-Drug War
                                    Closed Borders
                                    Anti-Racial Guilt
                                    Anti-Racism
                                    Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
                                    Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
                                    Glorifying the Entrepreneur
                                    Venerating the Housewife
                                    Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

                                    Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is โ€œa Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.โ€ We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an โ€œismโ€, โ€œistโ€, or โ€œphobicโ€ that fits the Leftโ€™s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

                                    As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

                                    So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

                                    Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

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                                    xenon
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #136

                                    @Larry said in 1st President Debate:

                                    @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                                    @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                                    @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                                    @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                                    Hey @Larry, try this:

                                    Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                                    • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                                    • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                                    Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                                    • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                                    • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                                    Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                                    No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

                                    Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

                                    You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

                                    Here are the tenants of the organization:

                                    Core Values Of The Proud Boys
                                    Minimal Government
                                    Maximum Freedom
                                    Anti-Political Correctness
                                    Anti-Drug War
                                    Closed Borders
                                    Anti-Racial Guilt
                                    Anti-Racism
                                    Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
                                    Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
                                    Glorifying the Entrepreneur
                                    Venerating the Housewife
                                    Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

                                    Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is โ€œa Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.โ€ We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an โ€œismโ€, โ€œistโ€, or โ€œphobicโ€ that fits the Leftโ€™s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

                                    As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

                                    So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

                                    Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

                                    He said he doesnโ€™t know who they are today:

                                    โ€œI donโ€™t know who the Proud Boys are. Youโ€™ll have to give me a definition, because I really donโ€™t know who they are. I can only say they have to stand down.โ€

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                                      #137

                                      @George-K said in 1st President Debate:

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                                      Taiwan uses microphone muting during debates.

                                      Regarding last night debate, in speaking with friends who watched in Germany, Thailand, and Taiwan, the response was "embarrassment" for the US.

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                                        Copper
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                                        #138

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #139

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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