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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

    @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

    Hey @Larry, try this:

    Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

    • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
    • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

    Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

    • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
    • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

    Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

    No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

    Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

    JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #129

    @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

    @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

    @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

    Hey @Larry, try this:

    Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

    • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
    • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

    Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

    • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
    • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

    Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

    No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

    Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

    You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

    Here are the tenants of the organization:

    Core Values Of The Proud Boys
    Minimal Government
    Maximum Freedom
    Anti-Political Correctness
    Anti-Drug War
    Closed Borders
    Anti-Racial Guilt
    Anti-Racism
    Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
    Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
    Glorifying the Entrepreneur
    Venerating the Housewife
    Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

    Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is โ€œa Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.โ€ We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an โ€œismโ€, โ€œistโ€, or โ€œphobicโ€ that fits the Leftโ€™s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

    As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

    So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

    โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

    LarryL 1 Reply Last reply
    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

      @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

      Hey @Larry, try this:

      Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

      • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
      • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

      Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

      • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
      • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

      Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

      No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

      Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by Copper
      #130

      @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

      Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

      Mr. Trump is the only president since 2009 that likes the United States.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        Hey @Larry, try this:

        Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

        • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
        • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

        Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

        • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
        • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters
        LarryL Offline
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        Larry
        wrote on last edited by
        #131

        @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

        Hey @Larry, try this:

        Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

        • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
        • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

        Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

        • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
        • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

        Trump didn't refuse to condemn white supremacists, in fact he did so 3 times when Wallace was asking him about the Proud Boys. Trump had never heard of them. Neither had I. But you stupid Socialists call EVERY white person a white supremacist, so Trump was trying to avoid condemning a group that might not have been bad. He has over the last 4 years condemned racist groups, hate groups, racism over and over again, but idiots like you just keep accusing him of it anyway. So shove that one up your ass. As for being "unamerican..., that's about as dumb as it gets. Trump is more pro America than any of them. "Not respecting the will of the voters"... Jesus are you really that fucking stupid or are you just seeing how big of an ass hat you can be?

        This is why none of you fucking democrats are worth a shit.

        As for your two Biden points, you are a fool.

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        • KlausK Klaus

          Ah, come on, Larry, there is no conceivable way the debate could have went in which you would have come to a different conclusion. This makes reading your reactions to it a little boring.

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          Larry
          wrote on last edited by
          #132

          @Klaus said in 1st President Debate:

          Ah, come on, Larry, there is no conceivable way the debate could have went in which you would have come to a different conclusion. This makes reading your reactions to it a little boring.

          Then don't read them, because I'm not going to drop half my brain just to make you happy.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

            @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

            @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

            Hey @Larry, try this:

            Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

            • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
            • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

            Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

            • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
            • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

            Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

            No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

            Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

            You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

            Here are the tenants of the organization:

            Core Values Of The Proud Boys
            Minimal Government
            Maximum Freedom
            Anti-Political Correctness
            Anti-Drug War
            Closed Borders
            Anti-Racial Guilt
            Anti-Racism
            Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
            Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
            Glorifying the Entrepreneur
            Venerating the Housewife
            Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

            Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is โ€œa Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.โ€ We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an โ€œismโ€, โ€œistโ€, or โ€œphobicโ€ that fits the Leftโ€™s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

            As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

            So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

            LarryL Offline
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            Larry
            wrote on last edited by
            #133

            @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

            @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

            @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

            @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

            Hey @Larry, try this:

            Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

            • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
            • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

            Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

            • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
            • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

            Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

            No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

            Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

            You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

            Here are the tenants of the organization:

            Core Values Of The Proud Boys
            Minimal Government
            Maximum Freedom
            Anti-Political Correctness
            Anti-Drug War
            Closed Borders
            Anti-Racial Guilt
            Anti-Racism
            Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
            Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
            Glorifying the Entrepreneur
            Venerating the Housewife
            Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

            Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is โ€œa Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.โ€ We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an โ€œismโ€, โ€œistโ€, or โ€œphobicโ€ that fits the Leftโ€™s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

            As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

            So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

            Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

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              JollyJ Offline
              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #134

              The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

              If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

              โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Thatโ€™s a point.

                AxtremusA Away
                AxtremusA Away
                Axtremus
                wrote on last edited by
                #135

                @jon-nyc said in 1st President Debate:

                Thatโ€™s a point.

                Has he considered Joe Rogan?

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                • LarryL Larry

                  @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                  @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                  @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                  @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                  Hey @Larry, try this:

                  Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                  • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                  • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                  Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                  • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                  • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                  Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                  No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

                  Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

                  You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

                  Here are the tenants of the organization:

                  Core Values Of The Proud Boys
                  Minimal Government
                  Maximum Freedom
                  Anti-Political Correctness
                  Anti-Drug War
                  Closed Borders
                  Anti-Racial Guilt
                  Anti-Racism
                  Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
                  Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
                  Glorifying the Entrepreneur
                  Venerating the Housewife
                  Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

                  Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is โ€œa Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.โ€ We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an โ€œismโ€, โ€œistโ€, or โ€œphobicโ€ that fits the Leftโ€™s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

                  As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

                  So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

                  Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

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                  xenon
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #136

                  @Larry said in 1st President Debate:

                  @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                  @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                  @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                  @Axtremus said in 1st President Debate:

                  Hey @Larry, try this:

                  Trump ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž :

                  • Divisive, refuses to condemn white supremacists and hate groups
                  • UnAmerican, will not commit to respecting the will of the voters

                  Biden ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ :

                  • Uniter, calls for unity and peaceful coexistence of all Americans
                  • Upholds American democratic ideals, will respect the will of the voters

                  Apparently, you didn't watch the same debate I did. Trump condemned white racists.

                  No, Trump refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups.

                  Oh well, at least yo do not contest the point about Trump being unAmerican, unwilling to respect the will of the voters.

                  You are such a dumb twerp who gets what little he knows from a Wiki page. Put down the doobie and back away from the MSM IV line. The Proud Boys are far right/libertarian, but they aren't white supremacists.

                  Here are the tenants of the organization:

                  Core Values Of The Proud Boys
                  Minimal Government
                  Maximum Freedom
                  Anti-Political Correctness
                  Anti-Drug War
                  Closed Borders
                  Anti-Racial Guilt
                  Anti-Racism
                  Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
                  Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
                  Glorifying the Entrepreneur
                  Venerating the Housewife
                  Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism

                  Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is โ€œa Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.โ€ We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an โ€œismโ€, โ€œistโ€, or โ€œphobicโ€ that fits the Leftโ€™s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us

                  As for Trump not accepting a rugged election, I don't blame him one bit. He wants to do away with unsolicited mail-in ballots. Trump wants observers at the polls. He wants to eradicate ballot harvesting. He does not want illegals to vote. He wants people to show a valid picture ID here voting. Biden wants none of this.

                  So,why are you in favor of crooked elections?

                  Reading the tenets of the group called the Proud Boys, assuming the list is correct, and I'm sure it is... Trump was correct to not let Wallace and Biden bully him into condemning them as a white supremacist group, and once again Ax has made a fucking fool out of himself. Which from what I've observed is about the only thing he's good at..

                  He said he doesnโ€™t know who they are today:

                  โ€œI donโ€™t know who the Proud Boys are. Youโ€™ll have to give me a definition, because I really donโ€™t know who they are. I can only say they have to stand down.โ€

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                    @George-K said in 1st President Debate:

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                    Taiwan uses microphone muting during debates.

                    Regarding last night debate, in speaking with friends who watched in Germany, Thailand, and Taiwan, the response was "embarrassment" for the US.

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                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          I want my Empire back.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                            If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

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                            @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                            The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                            If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

                            I'm Western European, and they can go fuck themselves and so can people who support them.

                            Pro-white - Jesus Christ, has it come to this?

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                              #142

                              The idea that we could re-racialize our society only for non-whites was always as unrealistic as it was obscene.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                                The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                                If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

                                I'm Western European, and they can go fuck themselves and so can people who support them.

                                Pro-white - Jesus Christ, has it come to this?

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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in 1st President Debate:

                                @Jolly said in 1st President Debate:

                                The list is from their website. Look, they are pro-white, especially the Western European variety, but I don't think they are anti-black or anti-whatever.

                                If that has become our standard for what we refer to as white supremicists, we may be in trouble.

                                I'm Western European, and they can go fuck themselves and so can people who support them.

                                Pro-white - Jesus Christ, has it come to this?

                                Yep.

                                โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    The idea that we could re-racialize our society only for non-whites was always as unrealistic as it was obscene.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in 1st President Debate:

                                    The idea that we could re-racialize our society only for non-whites was always as ridiculous as it was obscene.

                                    It has proven anything but ridiculous for the purposes of motivating/manipulating the masses, including, or maybe especially, the white masses. Obscene, yes, of course.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Funny as you were posting I changed 'ridiculous' to 'unrealistic'. Which is closer to the point I was trying to make.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        There's no future in it, but enough of one to satisfy a lifetime of power mongering for generations of progressives.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Republicans to Trump: Condemn white supremacy now
                                          https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/30/chris-christie-defends-trump-debate-423610

                                          โ€” โ€”
                                          Senate Republicans spent much of Wednesday pressing President Donald Trump to denounce white supremacy, with few in the GOP willing to explicitly defend his refusal to do so during Tuesdayโ€™s presidential debate.
                                          ...
                                          In a series of interviews and public statements Wednesday, Senate Republicans pushed Trump to clarify his comments, with party leaders and the rank-and-file eager to put distance between themselves and the presidentโ€™s stance.

                                          Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said that he shared the same views as Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), the only black GOP senator, who urged the president to correct his comments.
                                          ...
                                          GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham, a close Trump ally, also aligned himself with his South Carolina colleague, tweeting that he agrees with "President Trump needing to make it clear Proud Boys is a racist organization antithetical to American ideals.โ€
                                          ...
                                          โ€” โ€”

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