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    George K
    wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 00:58 last edited by
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    HEre's the law:

    (f)Disclosure to Committees of Congress
    (1)Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation
    Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

    Emphasis mine.

    Seems that the committee is acting outside the word of the law in its release of the information. But then, the New York Times did it a long time ago and there was no prosecution.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 02:26 last edited by
      #140

      This went to Scotus. Maybe even twice.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        22 Dec 2022, 02:26

        This went to Scotus. Maybe even twice.

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        George K
        wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 02:28 last edited by
        #141

        @jon-nyc said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

        This went to Scotus. Maybe even twice.

        To release publicly, or just to the committee?

        Is the law I cited outdated?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 04:44 last edited by
          #142

          Maybe Trump will file a lawsuit to block the public release of his tax returns. :man-shrugging:

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            89th
            wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 05:02 last edited by
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            Let me guess, Trump’s taxes confirm he is a loser much more than he’s a winner. Shall I list his bankrupt companies again? I haven’t seen anything yet but I’m pretty confident Trump’s best asset is his ability to communicate and fool others into think he’s more successful than he actually is.

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              22 Dec 2022, 05:02

              Let me guess, Trump’s taxes confirm he is a loser much more than he’s a winner. Shall I list his bankrupt companies again? I haven’t seen anything yet but I’m pretty confident Trump’s best asset is his ability to communicate and fool others into think he’s more successful than he actually is.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 05:12 last edited by
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              @89th

              Appears that he is just occasionally a loser.

              Elbows up!

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                Copper
                wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 17:58 last edited by
                #145

                Once again, the law means nothing when it comes to Mr. Trump

                What a loser, hahaha

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                • C Copper
                  22 Dec 2022, 17:58

                  Once again, the law means nothing when it comes to Mr. Trump

                  What a loser, hahaha

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 18:34 last edited by
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                  @Copper said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                  Once again, the law means nothing when it comes to Mr. Trump

                  Law means nothing when Good must triumph over Evil! Or, at least Evil personified.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 05:02 last edited by
                    #147

                    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3785840-why-democrats-released-trumps-tax-returns/

                    The Hill's attempt to report on why the Democrats released Trump's tax returns.

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                      bachophile
                      wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 05:50 last edited by bachophile
                      #148

                      Business expense

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                        24 Dec 2022, 05:50

                        Business expense

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                        George K
                        wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 12:33 last edited by
                        #149

                        @bachophile I looked over and under where I could find something close to being that outrageous. Came up short.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          24 Dec 2022, 05:02

                          https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3785840-why-democrats-released-trumps-tax-returns/

                          The Hill's attempt to report on why the Democrats released Trump's tax returns.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 13:00 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                          https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3785840-why-democrats-released-trumps-tax-returns/

                          The Hill's attempt to report on why the Democrats released Trump's tax returns.

                          What utter hogwash.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 14:28 last edited by
                            #151

                            The one person who lost money...

                            https://hotair.com/david-strom/2022/12/23/about-those-trump-tax-returns-n519691

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              George K
                              wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 14:30 last edited by
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                              Did he do anything illegal? If so, prosecute away.

                              If you're outraged, change the tax code.

                              I doubt that he was personally involved with these returns. This is how accountants make a living.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • G George K
                                24 Dec 2022, 14:30

                                Did he do anything illegal? If so, prosecute away.

                                If you're outraged, change the tax code.

                                I doubt that he was personally involved with these returns. This is how accountants make a living.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 14:42 last edited by
                                #153

                                @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                prosecute away.

                                Is anyone going to be prosecuted for breaking Federal law in this case.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • G George K
                                  24 Dec 2022, 14:30

                                  Did he do anything illegal? If so, prosecute away.

                                  If you're outraged, change the tax code.

                                  I doubt that he was personally involved with these returns. This is how accountants make a living.

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 15:19 last edited by
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                                  @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                  Did he do anything illegal? If so, prosecute away.

                                  If you're outraged, change the tax code.

                                  I doubt that he was personally involved with these returns. This is how accountants make a living.

                                  If the principal haven't done anything dubious to begin with, the accountant would have no raw material with which to craft questionable tax returns. After all, the accountant still make money when preparing 100% honest tax returns, with lower risks too.

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                                  • G George K
                                    24 Dec 2022, 14:42

                                    @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                    prosecute away.

                                    Is anyone going to be prosecuted for breaking Federal law in this case.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 15:20 last edited by
                                    #155

                                    @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                    @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                    prosecute away.

                                    Is anyone going to be prosecuted for breaking Federal law in this case.

                                    There is already a guilty plea:
                                    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna57372

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                                      24 Dec 2022, 15:19

                                      @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                      Did he do anything illegal? If so, prosecute away.

                                      If you're outraged, change the tax code.

                                      I doubt that he was personally involved with these returns. This is how accountants make a living.

                                      If the principal haven't done anything dubious to begin with, the accountant would have no raw material with which to craft questionable tax returns. After all, the accountant still make money when preparing 100% honest tax returns, with lower risks too.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 15:33 last edited by
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                                      @Axtremus said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                      If the principal haven't done anything dubious to begin with, the accountant would have no raw material with which to craft questionable tax returns.

                                      If you're really innocent, you don't need a lawyer, and you certainly don't need the 5th amendment, right?

                                      There is already a guilty plea:
                                      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna57372

                                      @Axtremus good.

                                      Now prosecute the House Ways and Means Committee for the same crime.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 27 Dec 2022, 02:11 last edited by
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                                        As I said way way way back when, there are probably two reasons President Trump did not want to release his tax return

                                        he wasn't as smart a business man as he claimed and didn't make as much money
                                        he didn't donate very much money to charity

                                        I think if they examine the returns, I think both will probably be true.

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl
                                          27 Dec 2022, 02:11

                                          As I said way way way back when, there are probably two reasons President Trump did not want to release his tax return

                                          he wasn't as smart a business man as he claimed and didn't make as much money
                                          he didn't donate very much money to charity

                                          I think if they examine the returns, I think both will probably be true.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 27 Dec 2022, 02:16 last edited by George K
                                          #158

                                          @taiwan_girl said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                          As I said way way way back when, there are probably two reasons President Trump did not want to release his tax return

                                          he wasn't as smart a business man as he claimed and didn't make as much money
                                          he didn't donate very much money to charity

                                          I think if they examine the returns, I think both will probably be true.

                                          Could very well be true.

                                          Neither reason is enough for breaking the law.

                                          ETA, regarding #1, how many men have gotten POORER during their presidency, (at least in the last 50 years)?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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