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    Mik
    wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 00:02 last edited by
    #137

    Precisely my concern. The witchhunt continues.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • M Mik
      21 Dec 2022, 23:46

      What legitimate interest does the committee have to seek his tax returns, much less publish them? The fact that he did not turn them over as a candidate is, to me, nothing. No candidate before him that did was required to do so.

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 00:45 last edited by
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      @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

      What legitimate interest does the committee have to seek his tax returns, ...

      https://www.npr.org/2022/11/22/1136846873/supreme-court-trump-tax-returns

      "The House Ways and Means Committee argued that it needs the information contained in Trump's tax returns to meaningfully evaluate the IRS's presidential audit program. The Committee says it is considering implementing greater legislative oversight of financial activities conducted by presidents. In particular, it is investigating whether the current IRS audit program is able to adequately enforce the nation's tax laws against a president, like Trump, who has complex business holdings."

      These rationales have passed muster with multiple court reviews and appeals.

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        George K
        wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 00:58 last edited by
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        HEre's the law:

        (f)Disclosure to Committees of Congress
        (1)Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation
        Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

        Emphasis mine.

        Seems that the committee is acting outside the word of the law in its release of the information. But then, the New York Times did it a long time ago and there was no prosecution.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 02:26 last edited by
          #140

          This went to Scotus. Maybe even twice.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • J jon-nyc
            22 Dec 2022, 02:26

            This went to Scotus. Maybe even twice.

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            George K
            wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 02:28 last edited by
            #141

            @jon-nyc said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

            This went to Scotus. Maybe even twice.

            To release publicly, or just to the committee?

            Is the law I cited outdated?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 04:44 last edited by
              #142

              Maybe Trump will file a lawsuit to block the public release of his tax returns. :man-shrugging:

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                89th
                wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 05:02 last edited by
                #143

                Let me guess, Trump’s taxes confirm he is a loser much more than he’s a winner. Shall I list his bankrupt companies again? I haven’t seen anything yet but I’m pretty confident Trump’s best asset is his ability to communicate and fool others into think he’s more successful than he actually is.

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                • 8 89th
                  22 Dec 2022, 05:02

                  Let me guess, Trump’s taxes confirm he is a loser much more than he’s a winner. Shall I list his bankrupt companies again? I haven’t seen anything yet but I’m pretty confident Trump’s best asset is his ability to communicate and fool others into think he’s more successful than he actually is.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 05:12 last edited by
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                  @89th

                  Appears that he is just occasionally a loser.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 17:58 last edited by
                    #145

                    Once again, the law means nothing when it comes to Mr. Trump

                    What a loser, hahaha

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                    • C Copper
                      22 Dec 2022, 17:58

                      Once again, the law means nothing when it comes to Mr. Trump

                      What a loser, hahaha

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 22 Dec 2022, 18:34 last edited by
                      #146

                      @Copper said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                      Once again, the law means nothing when it comes to Mr. Trump

                      Law means nothing when Good must triumph over Evil! Or, at least Evil personified.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 05:02 last edited by
                        #147

                        https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3785840-why-democrats-released-trumps-tax-returns/

                        The Hill's attempt to report on why the Democrats released Trump's tax returns.

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                          bachophile
                          wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 05:50 last edited by bachophile
                          #148

                          Business expense

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                            24 Dec 2022, 05:50

                            Business expense

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                            George K
                            wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 12:33 last edited by
                            #149

                            @bachophile I looked over and under where I could find something close to being that outrageous. Came up short.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              24 Dec 2022, 05:02

                              https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3785840-why-democrats-released-trumps-tax-returns/

                              The Hill's attempt to report on why the Democrats released Trump's tax returns.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 13:00 last edited by
                              #150

                              @Axtremus said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                              https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3785840-why-democrats-released-trumps-tax-returns/

                              The Hill's attempt to report on why the Democrats released Trump's tax returns.

                              What utter hogwash.

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 14:28 last edited by
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                                The one person who lost money...

                                https://hotair.com/david-strom/2022/12/23/about-those-trump-tax-returns-n519691

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 14:30 last edited by
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                                  Did he do anything illegal? If so, prosecute away.

                                  If you're outraged, change the tax code.

                                  I doubt that he was personally involved with these returns. This is how accountants make a living.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    24 Dec 2022, 14:30

                                    Did he do anything illegal? If so, prosecute away.

                                    If you're outraged, change the tax code.

                                    I doubt that he was personally involved with these returns. This is how accountants make a living.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 14:42 last edited by
                                    #153

                                    @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                    prosecute away.

                                    Is anyone going to be prosecuted for breaking Federal law in this case.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • G George K
                                      24 Dec 2022, 14:30

                                      Did he do anything illegal? If so, prosecute away.

                                      If you're outraged, change the tax code.

                                      I doubt that he was personally involved with these returns. This is how accountants make a living.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 15:19 last edited by
                                      #154

                                      @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                      Did he do anything illegal? If so, prosecute away.

                                      If you're outraged, change the tax code.

                                      I doubt that he was personally involved with these returns. This is how accountants make a living.

                                      If the principal haven't done anything dubious to begin with, the accountant would have no raw material with which to craft questionable tax returns. After all, the accountant still make money when preparing 100% honest tax returns, with lower risks too.

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                                      • G George K
                                        24 Dec 2022, 14:42

                                        @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                        prosecute away.

                                        Is anyone going to be prosecuted for breaking Federal law in this case.

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 15:20 last edited by
                                        #155

                                        @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                        @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                        prosecute away.

                                        Is anyone going to be prosecuted for breaking Federal law in this case.

                                        There is already a guilty plea:
                                        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna57372

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                                          24 Dec 2022, 15:19

                                          @George-K said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                          Did he do anything illegal? If so, prosecute away.

                                          If you're outraged, change the tax code.

                                          I doubt that he was personally involved with these returns. This is how accountants make a living.

                                          If the principal haven't done anything dubious to begin with, the accountant would have no raw material with which to craft questionable tax returns. After all, the accountant still make money when preparing 100% honest tax returns, with lower risks too.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 24 Dec 2022, 15:33 last edited by
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                                          @Axtremus said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                          If the principal haven't done anything dubious to begin with, the accountant would have no raw material with which to craft questionable tax returns.

                                          If you're really innocent, you don't need a lawyer, and you certainly don't need the 5th amendment, right?

                                          There is already a guilty plea:
                                          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna57372

                                          @Axtremus good.

                                          Now prosecute the House Ways and Means Committee for the same crime.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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