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More drama at 60 minutes

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
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    #19

    We'll find out in a year or so. If the show continues in more or less the same format, ratings, content... Pelley was a fool. If the show is no-more or objectively changed its journalistic reputation, then we'll know Pelley was right. Can you please ask Siri to remind you in a year to see if you or 89th were right?

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      #20

      The only objective thing will be the ratings. If you believe "reputation" is objectively measurable, then I'd be curious what 60 minutes' objective reputation is at this moment, and why you will find so many people who disagree that that is the objective reputation.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        I cannot recall ever watching a full instalment of 60 minutes. Any segments or clips I have seen haven’t been retained either.

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Offline
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          They've had some very good work, but also some incredibly slanted pieces as well.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • HoraceH Horace

            The only objective thing will be the ratings. If you believe "reputation" is objectively measurable, then I'd be curious what 60 minutes' objective reputation is at this moment, and why you will find so many people who disagree that that is the objective reputation.

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            @Horace said:

            The only objective thing will be the ratings. If you believe "reputation" is objectively measurable, then I'd be curious what 60 minutes' objective reputation is at this moment, and why you will find so many people who disagree that that is the objective reputation.

            This is the only place I'm aware of that does regular bias and accuracy measurements for almost every program you've heard of.

            Reliability = Higher is better.
            Bias = 0 is neutral, negative number is liberal, positive number is conservative.

            Current scores:

            60 Minutes
            Reliability: +35
            Bias: -9
            https://adfontesmedia.com/60-minutes-bias-and-reliability/

            FOx News
            Reliability: +28
            Biast: +18
            Source: https://adfontesmedia.com/fox-news-primetime-bias-and-reliability/

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #24

              I agree that TMZ is the gold standard of journalism.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                #25

                I don't think it's reasonable to expect that Weiss and Bilton will send this sort of measurement careening further to the right than 60 minutes is currently on the left. That's not who Weiss or Bilton ever were.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  Not to mention that the "Trumpism" so hated by everybody has little relation to directionally right politics. Unless you take the accusations of fascism seriously. Corruption, lying, authoritarianism, all the usual complaints, have little to nothing to do with the right/left dichotomy.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    Not to mention that the "Trumpism" so hated by everybody has little relation to directionally right politics. Unless you take the accusations of fascism seriously. Corruption, lying, authoritarianism, all the usual complaints, have little to nothing to do with the right/left dichotomy.

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                    Renauda
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                    #27

                    @Horace

                    Unless you take the accusations of fascism seriously.

                    I can’t take the fascist accusation seriously, however there is a decidedly faint odour of Bonapartism wafting about Washington as of late. I suspect the stench will become stronger once the midterms are past and “His Exalted Loathsomeness” officially becomes a lame duck.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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