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Hegseth to Anthropic: Nice company you got there…

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war

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    • HoraceH Online
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      Horace
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      #33

      OpenAI is in negotiations with the DoD to take over for Anthropic. I hope the "supply chain risk" threat is just negotiation hot air. I suspect it will prove to be, but who knows.

      In the letter, Anthropic acknowledges that the law is currently ambiguous to non-existent. Their concerns are ethical rather than (currently) legal, and I think the DoD is well within its duties to find a vendor who will not impose their own ethical constraints.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        #34

        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          #35

          Now it’s the Defense Production Act.

          Hegseth can’t decide if Anthropic is a risk to national security or essential to national security.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          • markM Offline
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            We have very dangerous idiots running our country.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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              • AxtremusA Offline
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                Srsly, the alternative would have done better than this.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Srsly, the alternative would have done better than this.

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  @Axtremus said in Hegseth to Anthropic: Nice company you got there…:

                  Srsly, the alternative would have done better than this.

                  As would the county dog catcher.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • X Offline
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                    Unmitigated idiocy at the helm.

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                    • HoraceH Online
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                      The threat to classify Anthropic as a supply chain threat is idiotic. The conflicting motivations of a company that brands itself with the highest ethical standards, but who want to provide cutting edge technology to the DoD, seems reasonable and even inevitable.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • AxtremusA Offline
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                        https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-bans-anthropic-government-use-rcna261055

                        ... “OpenAI CEO Sam Altman posted on X Friday night that the company had struck a deal with the Department of Defense to deploy its models on the department’s classified networks.”

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                          • HoraceH Online
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                            OpenAI goes where Anthropic dared not to:

                            Note that OpenAI's spin of the agreement makes it sound identical to what Anthropic demanded and the DoD refused. I wonder what the practical differences are.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              OpenAI goes where Anthropic dared not to:

                              Note that OpenAI's spin of the agreement makes it sound identical to what Anthropic demanded and the DoD refused. I wonder what the practical differences are.

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                              @Horace pwned ... look three posts up.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @Horace pwned ... look three posts up.

                                HoraceH Online
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                                @Axtremus my post contained the crucial insight that openAI’s agreement is described as identical to what Anthropic offered. Therefore my contribution is objectively superior to yours.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • MikM Away
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                                  My take? It is a discussion best approached quietly, not with the usual public belligerence of this administration. It looks petulant whether they are right or wrong and Anthropic looks like good citizens. The company framed this beautifully. Sometimes Trump et al just don't seem to know what fights are not wise to pick.

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                                    Seems to me the important part happened after that. The remedy if they don’t give you what you want is to find a different vendor. Not crush what very well may be the leading AI company in the country.

                                    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      Yeah, that too. If I were a CEO it would not make me eager to deal with this administration, preferring to see who is next. But that kind of ties in with what fight to pick.

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                                        What they were specifically asking for is starting to leak out.

                                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                        • 89th8 Offline
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                                          Does Anthropic or any gen AI company these days prevent the use of AI on "unclassified commercial data"? By that definition, that data is already available (probably for purchase) by any company or prompt jockey. Unless you think it's a coincidence that you searched for Dyson vacuums or walked by a Dyson vacuum store and start seeing ads for them.

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