US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him
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@Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.
I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.
@89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
@Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.
I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.
The France affair had nothing to do with anti-Semitism, rather it was the traditional right vs left:
Kushner failed to show up for a meeting at the ministry at 7pm on Monday to which he had been summoned after the US embassy in Paris reposted state department comments about the about the killing of a far-right activist in France….
Kushner failed to show up for a meeting at the ministry at 7pm on Monday to which he had been summoned after the US embassy in Paris reposted state department comments about the killing of far-right activist Quentin Deranque.
Kushner’s antisemitism crusade is against Belgium.
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So the details seem to be that the US Embassy in France posted a statement online that left-wing violence was on the rise after a group of counter protesters beat a right wing protester to death. The French government didn’t like it, and made an immediate request for Kushner to attend. Kushner stated he wasn’t available due to a prior commitment and sent his deputy. There seems to be some question as to whether Kushner was in France just then to have been able to attend.
Now we can birch and moan all we want, but can at least be reasonably informed.
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@Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.
I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.
@89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
@Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.
I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.
He's not there to protest through breaches of protocol but through what we like to call diplomacy. That's his job.
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On one hand, we have a no show diplomat, on the other hand we have Biden/Harris representatives sent to the French Embassy…
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The convicted felon was complaining about rising violent crime in France.
The French have retaliated by pointing out that some Americans are starting to use a lot of garlic in their food.
I was only joking
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@jon-nyc said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
They were sent to the French embassy? For what? A costume party?
That’s where the picture was taken. Actually, it was at the French Ambassador’s residence for a Bastille Day event.
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@Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.
I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.
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The convicted felon was complaining about rising violent crime in France.
The French have retaliated by pointing out that some Americans are starting to use a lot of garlic in their food.
@Doctor-Phibes said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
The convicted felon was complaining about rising violent crime in France.
Convicted by one Chis Christie, by the way.
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I think he's much more effective in this second term than the first. Like all presidents, he's done some things well and some badly.
@Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
I think he's much more effective in this second term than the first. Like all presidents, he's done some things well and some badly.
Trump’s domestic policy is of little interest and/or consequence to me personally. Indeed, he is welcome to fuck over his own electorate with impunity; after all, you folks elected him. On the global stage however his trade and investment policies are disastrous relics of a bygone era and have threatening negative consequences to my country. Overall Trump’s foreign policy too is rooted in a romanticised past where might makes right and secret treaties are the prerogative and exclusive privilege of the powerful.
His proclaimed Donroe Doctrine is nothing but a revanchist claim to hemispherical hegemony (and possibly future territory) solely under his terms. Lord only knows exactly what he perceives as the boundaries of the USA’s sphere(s) of influence but at this stage they appear unlimited. The unprincipled prick is no better than his stated “good friend” in the Kremlin, Vladimir Putin.
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I agree with @renauda @mik . Diplomacy at that level is very formal and rigid with rules. If you are an ambassador to a foreign country, and they summon you to meet, you go and meet with them. A formal request for a meeting is something that happens very very rarely, and is not used lightly.
Kind of like that saying - "unless you are dying or already dead, you will be there."
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@89th This wasn't basically a protest move. It is a deliberate strategy of undermining political stability.
If you don't get that you're willingly blind.@Wim said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
@89th This wasn't basically a protest move. It is a deliberate strategy of undermining political stability.
If you don't get that you're willingly blind.Oh you're probably right. I was just passing on the reason he was a no-show based on a brief article I read.
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I agree with @renauda @mik . Diplomacy at that level is very formal and rigid with rules. If you are an ambassador to a foreign country, and they summon you to meet, you go and meet with them. A formal request for a meeting is something that happens very very rarely, and is not used lightly.
Kind of like that saying - "unless you are dying or already dead, you will be there."
Kind of like that saying - "unless you are dying or already dead, you will be there."
That is an excellent way to describe the obligation of the protocol.
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@89th This wasn't basically a protest move. It is a deliberate strategy of undermining political stability.
If you don't get that you're willingly blind.@Wim said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
@89th This wasn't basically a protest move. It is a deliberate strategy of undermining political stability.
If you don't get that you're willingly blind.Wow. We have TWO telepathic people here!
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@Wim said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:
@89th This wasn't basically a protest move. It is a deliberate strategy of undermining political stability.
If you don't get that you're willingly blind.Wow. We have TWO telepathic people here!
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