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  • 89th8 Offline
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    All of that being said, I do see the 4D chess moves of long-lasting regime change potential in Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, (and maybe cartel change Mexico)... that would be a heck of a reputation to earn if those moves can come to fruition in the next 2-3 years. The first chess move to bomb Iran was one, the cutting off of oil to Cuba from Venezuela and Mexico is 2, the arresting of Maduro was 3, so I do see this trending in a POTENTIALLY historic direction. I suppose Rubio may get the VP credit for it in 2028.

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      One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?

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        #28

        @LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

        One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?

        This:

        A French official told The Hill Monday that Kushner did not show up to the foreign ministry when he was summoned, a breach of diplomatic protocol. As a result, Kushner is now denied meetings with French ministers.

        He refused to a summons from the French Foreign Minister.

        When summoned to by the host foreign ministry, a serving ambassador is obliged to comply with the order. That is understood and accepted diplomatic protocol.

        Elbows up!

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          #29

          I'm really surprised Charles Kushner, who inherited his father's business, and later went to federal prison for felonies including illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering in which he hired a whore to seduce his brother in law in order to blackmail him, would ever do something wrong.

          FYI I think he didn't show up for the summons because he thought France isn't doing enough to stop the rise of antisemitic attacks.

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            Trump pardoned him for his felonies before nominating him, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he is the father of his son-in-law. It was probably nothing swampy like that at all, zero chance.

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              @LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

              One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?

              This:

              A French official told The Hill Monday that Kushner did not show up to the foreign ministry when he was summoned, a breach of diplomatic protocol. As a result, Kushner is now denied meetings with French ministers.

              He refused to a summons from the French Foreign Minister.

              When summoned to by the host foreign ministry, a serving ambassador is obliged to comply with the order. That is understood and accepted diplomatic protocol.

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              @Renauda said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

              @LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

              One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?

              This:

              A French official told The Hill Monday that Kushner did not show up to the foreign ministry when he was summoned, a breach of diplomatic protocol. As a result, Kushner is now denied meetings with French ministers.

              He refused to a summons from the French Foreign Minister.

              Again, do we know why he refused the summons? I would be very curious to that.

              When summoned to by the host foreign ministry, a serving ambassador is obliged to comply with the order. That is understood and accepted diplomatic protocol.

              Protocol is fine. And when broken it can be a very powerful message. I would like to know what the message they are sending is, and why.

              The Brad

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              • 89th8 89th

                I think we know if Harris was President we'd basically see a cruise control of what Biden was doing. In many respects, I think we'd have a similar economy as to what Trump has now, so to me that's a bit of wash. We'd have borders than are more open than they are now but also wouldn't have masked men kidnapping people and shooting people in the streets.

                So really it comes down to, do you want the country moving slowly left on cruise control without blowing up diplomatic relations and without a garbage truck full of corruption and deplorable acts, or do you want the country moving back to the right but with all that the garbage truck of corruption brings?

                At this point I'd rather have Harris and then hopefully get a much better conservative in office in 2028 to bring us back to the right and hopefully add some fiscal stewardship on top. As I said in 2016 when I didn't vote for Trump, I could never tell my kids I voted for that type of person and sadly that's one prediction that seems to have been reinforced by behavior x1000.

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                @89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                I think we know if Harris was President we'd basically see a cruise control of what Biden was doing. In many respects, I think we'd have a similar economy as to what Trump has now, so to me that's a bit of wash. We'd have borders than are more open than they are now but also wouldn't have masked men kidnapping people and shooting people in the streets.

                So really it comes down to, do you want the country moving slowly left on cruise control without blowing up diplomatic relations and without a garbage truck full of corruption and deplorable acts, or do you want the country moving back to the right but with all that the garbage truck of corruption brings?

                At this point I'd rather have Harris and then hopefully get a much better conservative in office in 2028 to bring us back to the right and hopefully add some fiscal stewardship on top. As I said in 2016 when I didn't vote for Trump, I could never tell my kids I voted for that type of person and sadly that's one prediction that seems to have been reinforced by behavior x1000.

                Are you making the assertion that the Biden administration was not rife with corruption?

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @Renauda said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                  One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?

                  This:

                  A French official told The Hill Monday that Kushner did not show up to the foreign ministry when he was summoned, a breach of diplomatic protocol. As a result, Kushner is now denied meetings with French ministers.

                  He refused to a summons from the French Foreign Minister.

                  Again, do we know why he refused the summons? I would be very curious to that.

                  When summoned to by the host foreign ministry, a serving ambassador is obliged to comply with the order. That is understood and accepted diplomatic protocol.

                  Protocol is fine. And when broken it can be a very powerful message. I would like to know what the message they are sending is, and why.

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  @LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                  @Renauda said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                  One quick question, have we heard why Kushner refused to meet with the Ministers?

                  This:

                  A French official told The Hill Monday that Kushner did not show up to the foreign ministry when he was summoned, a breach of diplomatic protocol. As a result, Kushner is now denied meetings with French ministers.

                  He refused to a summons from the French Foreign Minister.

                  Again, do we know why he refused the summons? I would be very curious to that.

                  When summoned to by the host foreign ministry, a serving ambassador is obliged to comply with the order. That is understood and accepted diplomatic protocol.

                  Protocol is fine. And when broken it can be a very powerful message. I would like to know what the message they are sending is, and why.

                  He did not comply with the summons. He was obliged to do so. That is how it works the world over. Full stop.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    • MikM Mik

                      @89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                      I think we know if Harris was President we'd basically see a cruise control of what Biden was doing. In many respects, I think we'd have a similar economy as to what Trump has now, so to me that's a bit of wash. We'd have borders than are more open than they are now but also wouldn't have masked men kidnapping people and shooting people in the streets.

                      So really it comes down to, do you want the country moving slowly left on cruise control without blowing up diplomatic relations and without a garbage truck full of corruption and deplorable acts, or do you want the country moving back to the right but with all that the garbage truck of corruption brings?

                      At this point I'd rather have Harris and then hopefully get a much better conservative in office in 2028 to bring us back to the right and hopefully add some fiscal stewardship on top. As I said in 2016 when I didn't vote for Trump, I could never tell my kids I voted for that type of person and sadly that's one prediction that seems to have been reinforced by behavior x1000.

                      Are you making the assertion that the Biden administration was not rife with corruption?

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                      @Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                      Are you making the assertion that the Biden administration was not rife with corruption?

                      If you think that is the proper way to describe corruption in the Biden administration, what words would you use to describe the corruption of the current administration?

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      • MikM Mik

                        Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.

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                        @Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                        Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.

                        I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.

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                        • MikM Mik

                          @89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                          I think we know if Harris was President we'd basically see a cruise control of what Biden was doing. In many respects, I think we'd have a similar economy as to what Trump has now, so to me that's a bit of wash. We'd have borders than are more open than they are now but also wouldn't have masked men kidnapping people and shooting people in the streets.

                          So really it comes down to, do you want the country moving slowly left on cruise control without blowing up diplomatic relations and without a garbage truck full of corruption and deplorable acts, or do you want the country moving back to the right but with all that the garbage truck of corruption brings?

                          At this point I'd rather have Harris and then hopefully get a much better conservative in office in 2028 to bring us back to the right and hopefully add some fiscal stewardship on top. As I said in 2016 when I didn't vote for Trump, I could never tell my kids I voted for that type of person and sadly that's one prediction that seems to have been reinforced by behavior x1000.

                          Are you making the assertion that the Biden administration was not rife with corruption?

                          89th8 Offline
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                          @Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                          @89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                          I think we know if Harris was President we'd basically see a cruise control of what Biden was doing. In many respects, I think we'd have a similar economy as to what Trump has now, so to me that's a bit of wash. We'd have borders than are more open than they are now but also wouldn't have masked men kidnapping people and shooting people in the streets.

                          So really it comes down to, do you want the country moving slowly left on cruise control without blowing up diplomatic relations and without a garbage truck full of corruption and deplorable acts, or do you want the country moving back to the right but with all that the garbage truck of corruption brings?

                          At this point I'd rather have Harris and then hopefully get a much better conservative in office in 2028 to bring us back to the right and hopefully add some fiscal stewardship on top. As I said in 2016 when I didn't vote for Trump, I could never tell my kids I voted for that type of person and sadly that's one prediction that seems to have been reinforced by behavior x1000.

                          Are you making the assertion that the Biden administration was not rife with corruption?

                          Correct, I would not say Biden had widespread corruption. Statistically, I'd wager there's at least a 2,000% increase in corruption in Trump's 2nd administration than Biden's. For example, when people talk about Biden they talk about $20 million in foreign deals because of the Biden name, whereas when they talk about Trump they are looking at around $5,000 million (or 5 billion). Like the Bears, it's not even in the same ballpark city state.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            @Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                            Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.

                            I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.

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                            @89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                            @Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                            Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.

                            I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.

                            The France affair had nothing to do with anti-Semitism, rather it was the traditional right vs left:

                            Kushner failed to show up for a meeting at the ministry at 7pm on Monday to which he had been summoned after the US embassy in Paris reposted state department comments about the about the killing of a far-right activist in France….

                            Kushner failed to show up for a meeting at the ministry at 7pm on Monday to which he had been summoned after the US embassy in Paris reposted state department comments about the killing of far-right activist Quentin Deranque.

                            Kushner’s antisemitism crusade is against Belgium.

                            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/23/us-ambassador-to-paris-banned-from-meeting-french-ministers-after-no-show

                            Elbows up!

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                              So the details seem to be that the US Embassy in France posted a statement online that left-wing violence was on the rise after a group of counter protesters beat a right wing protester to death. The French government didn’t like it, and made an immediate request for Kushner to attend. Kushner stated he wasn’t available due to a prior commitment and sent his deputy. There seems to be some question as to whether Kushner was in France just then to have been able to attend.

                              Now we can birch and moan all we want, but can at least be reasonably informed.

                              The Brad

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                @Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                                Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.

                                I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.

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                                @89th said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                                @Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                                Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.

                                I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.

                                He's not there to protest through breaches of protocol but through what we like to call diplomacy. That's his job.

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                  On one hand, we have a no show diplomat, on the other hand we have Biden/Harris representatives sent to the French Embassy…alt text

                                  The Brad

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                                    They were sent to the French embassy? For what? A costume party?

                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      The convicted felon was complaining about rising violent crime in France.

                                      The French have retaliated by pointing out that some Americans are starting to use a lot of garlic in their food.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        They were sent to the French embassy? For what? A costume party?

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                                        @jon-nyc said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                                        They were sent to the French embassy? For what? A costume party?

                                        That’s where the picture was taken. Actually, it was at the French Ambassador’s residence for a Bastille Day event.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          @Mik said in US Ambassador to France - French Will Not Meet With Him:

                                          Yeah, there's really no message there other than arrogance and disrespect.

                                          I mean, sounds like it was a basic protest move. And you know what, I guess it will sort of work as it brings light to the antisemitism in France that is going unchecked. Whether he is right or wrong, who knows... but it's more protest than anything, it seems.

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                                          @89th This wasn't basically a protest move. It is a deliberate strategy of undermining political stability.
                                          If you don't get that you're willingly blind.

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