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SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    It turns out, according to the Supreme Court, that the president does NOT have the authority to raise tariffs on other countries because he didn't like a television commercial, or because he didn't like the tone of a foreign leader.

    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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    • kluursK Offline
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      Will no one relieve me of this troublesome priest court?

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Apparently three justices thought it was perfectly ok. Those guys are so smart, not like the other losers.

        I was only joking

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        • kluursK kluurs

          Will no one relieve me of this troublesome priest court?

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          @kluurs said in SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA:

          Will no one relieve me of this troublesome priest court?

          In time my friend. 2028 will be refreshing, and even if the air smells like a Hillbilly Elegy smoking a Cuban cigar, or a California Wildfire eating a nice Jewish bagel from Philly, it'll be refreshing from the sight and sound of a petulant bully from new york standing behind daddy's money and wrecking the family car while licking his cheetos-dust-covered fingers.

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            #5

            A step in the right direction. Nevertheless the so-called “fentanyl tariffs” on Canadian steel, aluminum, copper and the auto sector are unaffected by this SCOTUS ruling and will remain enforced.

            In response, elbows here will continue to remain up.

            Elbows up!

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            • HoraceH Online
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              Good news. I'll read the opinions for giggles. Or maybe feed them to an AI for a summary.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Online
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                Issue Majority Dissent
                Is tariff power core legislative authority? Yes — requires clear delegation Congress can broadly delegate in emergencies
                Does “regulate importation” include tariffs? No Yes
                Should Major Questions Doctrine apply? Yes No (or much less forcefully)
                Does historical practice support the President? No — unprecedented Yes — consistent with broad emergency powers
                Who is guarding separation of powers? Court is protecting Congress Court is constraining executive flexibility

                Education is extremely important.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  The three liberal justices did not sign on to the part discussing major questions doctrine, but nor did they specifically reject it. They just said it could be decided on statutory interpretation alone.

                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    Initial market response is not great.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      Initial market response is not great.

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                      #10

                      @LuFins-Dad said in SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA:

                      Initial market response is not great.

                      Maybe wary of what Trump will do in his frustration.

                      Market reaction isn't really negative though. Especially when today's GDP numbers were garbage. Market is up.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #11

                        Keep waiting for Trump to post about this. I need to drink some sweet maga tears this morning.

                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        • kluursK Offline
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                          Is DJT going to give back the $175 billion collected? I guess we owe China a lot of money.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @LuFins-Dad said in SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA:

                            Initial market response is not great.

                            Maybe wary of what Trump will do in his frustration.

                            Market reaction isn't really negative though. Especially when today's GDP numbers were garbage. Market is up.

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                            @Horace said in SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA:

                            Initial market response is not great.

                            Maybe wary of what Trump will do in his frustration.

                            Market reaction isn't really negative though. Especially when today's GDP numbers were garbage. Market is up.

                            There was an initial drop when the decision came out. It rebounded about 40 minutes later.

                            The Brad

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                              He's just announced a global 10% tariff on everybody.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                He's just announced a global 10% tariff on everybody.

                                HoraceH Online
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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA:

                                He's just announced a global 10% tariff on everybody.

                                Yeah. Oddly the market didn't react.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • X Online
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                                  That tariff has a built in 150 day limit.

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
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                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/what-supreme-court-ruling-against-trump-tariffs-means-for-your-money/ar-AA1WKHtY

                                    Includes the tariffs on French wine. Happy day. 😁

                                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                      Anybody need a German piano?

                                      The Brad

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