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SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote last edited by Renauda
    #5

    A step in the right direction. Nevertheless the so-called “fentanyl tariffs” on Canadian steel, aluminum, copper and the auto sector are unaffected by this SCOTUS ruling and will remain enforced.

    In response, elbows here will continue to remain up.

    Elbows up!

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    • HoraceH Online
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      Horace
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      #6

      Good news. I'll read the opinions for giggles. Or maybe feed them to an AI for a summary.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Online
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        #7
        Issue Majority Dissent
        Is tariff power core legislative authority? Yes — requires clear delegation Congress can broadly delegate in emergencies
        Does “regulate importation” include tariffs? No Yes
        Should Major Questions Doctrine apply? Yes No (or much less forcefully)
        Does historical practice support the President? No — unprecedented Yes — consistent with broad emergency powers
        Who is guarding separation of powers? Court is protecting Congress Court is constraining executive flexibility

        Education is extremely important.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          #8

          The three liberal justices did not sign on to the part discussing major questions doctrine, but nor did they specifically reject it. They just said it could be decided on statutory interpretation alone.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            wrote last edited by
            #9

            Initial market response is not great.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Initial market response is not great.

              HoraceH Online
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              wrote last edited by Horace
              #10

              @LuFins-Dad said in SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA:

              Initial market response is not great.

              Maybe wary of what Trump will do in his frustration.

              Market reaction isn't really negative though. Especially when today's GDP numbers were garbage. Market is up.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
                wrote last edited by
                #11

                Keep waiting for Trump to post about this. I need to drink some sweet maga tears this morning.

                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                • kluursK Offline
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                  #12

                  Is DJT going to give back the $175 billion collected? I guess we owe China a lot of money.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @LuFins-Dad said in SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA:

                    Initial market response is not great.

                    Maybe wary of what Trump will do in his frustration.

                    Market reaction isn't really negative though. Especially when today's GDP numbers were garbage. Market is up.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    #13

                    @Horace said in SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA:

                    Initial market response is not great.

                    Maybe wary of what Trump will do in his frustration.

                    Market reaction isn't really negative though. Especially when today's GDP numbers were garbage. Market is up.

                    There was an initial drop when the decision came out. It rebounded about 40 minutes later.

                    The Brad

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      He's just announced a global 10% tariff on everybody.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        He's just announced a global 10% tariff on everybody.

                        HoraceH Online
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #15

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in SCOTUS blocks Trump tariffs under IEEPA:

                        He's just announced a global 10% tariff on everybody.

                        Yeah. Oddly the market didn't react.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • X Online
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                          xenon
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                          #16

                          That tariff has a built in 150 day limit.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
                            wrote last edited by Mik
                            #17

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/what-supreme-court-ruling-against-trump-tariffs-means-for-your-money/ar-AA1WKHtY

                            Includes the tariffs on French wine. Happy day. 😁

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
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                              #18

                              Anybody need a German piano?

                              The Brad

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