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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

    Well, you categorize people in very simple terms, and have missed, willingly or otherwise, my negative commentary on Tucker. You probably more listen to Phibes' characterization of my attitude towards Tucker than you do me. I know how easy it is to judge people based on who they have ever claimed to listen to or even partially resonate with. It's why people like you and Phibes never admit to respecting any public personality. It's the safe choice, especially for those who most freely use that cudgel of categorizing people and permanently attaching them to anybody they have said positive things about.

    Hey, no need to bring me into your weird little ongoing marital spat.

    And the fact that I prefer to spend my free time listening to light history podcasts rather than to these "personalities" you listen to doesn't mean I don't respect public personalities. I just don't happen to respect the ones you listen to.

    Melvin Bragg, for example - he's fucking great. Admittedly, nobody over here has probably heard of him, but that's hardly my fault. Adam Maness is somebody else I really like - he's a jazz pianist and commentator. Sorry, not everything is politics.

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

    @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

    Melvin Bragg, for example - he's fucking great.

    '"Bragg married his first wife, Marie-Elisabeth Roche (b. 1939).[39] In 1965 they had a daughter, Marie-Elsa Bragg.[40] Roche was a French viscountess studying painting at Oxford.[12] In 1971, Roche died by suicide.[41] In an interview with The Guardian in 1998, Bragg said, "I could have done things which helped and I did things which harmed. So yes, I feel guilt, I feel remorse."

    You call that a fuckin' great guy? I think his wife felt, "not so much!"

    Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      I have a question that I don’t think has been addressed. How are these protestors knowing where to gather? They are showing up at these sites where ICE is going to be conducting operations. How do they know this?

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      @LuFins-Dad said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

      I have a question that I don’t think has been addressed. How are these protestors knowing where to gather? They are showing up at these sites where ICE is going to be conducting operations. How do they know this?

      iceout.org

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        Neighborhood groups have formed. One of the neighbors on our block held a meeting to sort through what to do. There are all kinds of informal ad hoc groups around the area. A friend attended a protest near one of the detention centers. Per her, there were a variety of groups there - not a massive centralized effort - more a bunch of small tribes.

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          And no, I didn't go to the group down the block so I have no idea what we're all supposed to do.

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          • kluursK kluurs

            Neighborhood groups have formed. One of the neighbors on our block held a meeting to sort through what to do. There are all kinds of informal ad hoc groups around the area. A friend attended a protest near one of the detention centers. Per her, there were a variety of groups there - not a massive centralized effort - more a bunch of small tribes.

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            @kluurs said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

            Neighborhood groups have formed. One of the neighbors on our block held a meeting to sort through what to do. There are all kinds of informal ad hoc groups around the area. A friend attended a protest near one of the detention centers. Per her, there were a variety of groups there - not a massive centralized effort - more a bunch of small tribes.

            Sounds pretty grassroot, pretty organic. Any whiff of outside "big money" driving these groups?

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            • Tom-KT Tom-K

              @Doctor-Phibes said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

              @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

              Melvin Bragg, for example - he's fucking great.

              '"Bragg married his first wife, Marie-Elisabeth Roche (b. 1939).[39] In 1965 they had a daughter, Marie-Elsa Bragg.[40] Roche was a French viscountess studying painting at Oxford.[12] In 1971, Roche died by suicide.[41] In an interview with The Guardian in 1998, Bragg said, "I could have done things which helped and I did things which harmed. So yes, I feel guilt, I feel remorse."

              You call that a fuckin' great guy? I think his wife felt, "not so much!"

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              @Tom-K said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

              @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

              Melvin Bragg, for example - he's fucking great.

              '"Bragg married his first wife, Marie-Elisabeth Roche (b. 1939).[39] In 1965 they had a daughter, Marie-Elsa Bragg.[40] Roche was a French viscountess studying painting at Oxford.[12] In 1971, Roche died by suicide.[41] In an interview with The Guardian in 1998, Bragg said, "I could have done things which helped and I did things which harmed. So yes, I feel guilt, I feel remorse."

              You call that a fuckin' great guy? I think his wife felt, "not so much!"

              I was totally unaware of that. Another hero ruined. Thanks a bunch.

              OK, how about that Jeff Bezos? He's a public figure and I bet he's a fantastic bunch of guys!

              I was only joking

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                @LuFins-Dad said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                I have a question that I don’t think has been addressed. How are these protestors knowing where to gather? They are showing up at these sites where ICE is going to be conducting operations. How do they know this?

                iceout.org

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                @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                @LuFins-Dad said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                I have a question that I don’t think has been addressed. How are these protestors knowing where to gather? They are showing up at these sites where ICE is going to be conducting operations. How do they know this?

                iceout.org

                That still doesn’t explain how they are aware, that’s just medium that they share. Are there public records for warrants? Are there leaks from the agency or the courthouse m?

                The Brad

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                  Horace answered your question right after you asked it.

                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                    I have a question that I don’t think has been addressed. How are these protestors knowing where to gather? They are showing up at these sites where ICE is going to be conducting operations. How do they know this?

                    iceout.org

                    That still doesn’t explain how they are aware, that’s just medium that they share. Are there public records for warrants? Are there leaks from the agency or the courthouse m?

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                    That still doesn’t explain how they are aware, that’s just medium that they share. Are there public records for warrants? Are there leaks from the agency or the courthouse m?

                    LOL you think they have warrants? At least around here they ask where you are born based on your accent or skin color (many, many videos of this) and go to places where they know immigrants work like construction sites. They will grab someone, throw them in the car, and then drop them off miles away if they end up being a citizen. (videos of this too) Not making any of this up. How much is this the norm? I have no idea...

                    If warrants and due process were followed, I doubt you'd see any protests.

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                      And my area isn't even an immigrant hot spot. The biggest accent you'll hear here is whether someone says "excuse me" or "ope", or if they say "bag" or "beg", dontchaknow.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @LuFins-Dad said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                        That still doesn’t explain how they are aware, that’s just medium that they share. Are there public records for warrants? Are there leaks from the agency or the courthouse m?

                        LOL you think they have warrants? At least around here they ask where you are born based on your accent or skin color (many, many videos of this) and go to places where they know immigrants work like construction sites. They will grab someone, throw them in the car, and then drop them off miles away if they end up being a citizen. (videos of this too) Not making any of this up. How much is this the norm? I have no idea...

                        If warrants and due process were followed, I doubt you'd see any protests.

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                        @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                        LOL you think they have warrants? At least around here they ask where you are born based on your accent or skin color (many, many videos of this) and go to places where they know immigrants work like construction sites. They will grab someone, throw them in the car, and then drop them off miles away if they end up being a citizen. (videos of this too) Not making any of this up. How much is this the norm? I have no idea...

                        Do you have a link to these videos?

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Link to video

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                            Link to video

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                              Link to video

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                                Link to video

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                                  Order of videos above:

                                  • accent
                                  • skin color
                                  • no warrant
                                  • target employee

                                  I haven't verified each video but this is a quick sampling of what's out there at least. And yes, protestors are annoying to listen to.

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                                    @89th Thanks for the links.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      “We are federales...Badges? We ain’t got no badges! We don’t need no badges! I don’t have to show you any stinking badges!”

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                                          That's been well understood by many for a while now. The ICE protests are mostly higher status whites screaming at lower status minorities, trying to do their job.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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