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ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    #194

    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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    • A AndyD

      Good grief 😔

      Why did this man go armed to a peaceful protest?
      Why did he not simply do as directed and get off the public road? Why not even after pepper sprayed by an officer?
      Actively interfering with law officers' duties.
      Why did he not simply comply with law officers instructions?

      Why did he continue to resist arrest by multiple officers, even when restraining him on the ground?
      Why did he(attempt to) stand up?

      Why did the officers not give him an extra second to get back on the pavement?
      I cannot hear, but why did so many officers suddenly rush to the spot.
      Why when his gun was removed were the other officers not clearly informed?
      Why did he attempt to stand(continue resisting), why was he shot in the back by an officer when attempting to stand?
      Screenshot_20260125-071740_DuckDuckGo.jpg

      Clearly not a defensive shot, the officer needs to go on trial.
      The incompetence of the law officers beggers belief. To talk and de-escalate; and to restrain efficiently.
      The stupidity of the man also.

      So many questions, clearly neither public nor law officers have learnt much from the previous incident.

      LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #195

      @AndyD said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

      Good grief 😔

      Why did this man go armed to a peaceful protest?
      Why did he not simply do as directed and get off the public road? Why not even after pepper sprayed by an officer?
      Actively interfering with law officers' duties.
      Why did he not simply comply with law officers instructions?

      Why did he continue to resist arrest by multiple officers, even when restraining him on the ground?
      Why did he(attempt to) stand up?

      Why did the officers not give him an extra second to get back on the pavement?
      I cannot hear, but why did so many officers suddenly rush to the spot.
      Why when his gun was removed were the other officers not clearly informed?
      Why did he attempt to stand(continue resisting), why was he shot in the back by an officer when attempting to stand?
      Screenshot_20260125-071740_DuckDuckGo.jpg

      Clearly not a defensive shot, the officer needs to go on trial.
      The incompetence of the law officers beggers belief. To talk and de-escalate; and to restrain efficiently.
      The stupidity of the man also.

      So many questions, clearly neither public nor law officers have learnt much from the previous incident.

      Your thoughts mirror my own.

      One thing going around (that I have not heard any confirmation of) is that his gun did accidentally discharge while the ICE agent had it in hand, and the other agents were not aware that he was disarmed. They knew he had a weapon, heard the gun go off, and responded.

      The Brad

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      • MikM Offline
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        Guns don't "go off". They are fired. Still idiocy on all parts.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          Also Noem and Bovino would have worked into their narrative that Pretti ‘had shot at officers’

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • MikM Mik

            Guns don't "go off". They are fired. Still idiocy on all parts.

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            @Mik said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

            Guns don't "go off". They are fired. Still idiocy on all parts.

            https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/us-news/alex-prettis-sig-p320-may-have-gone-off-accidentally-experts-suggest/

            The P320 model is widely carried by armed civilians and US law enforcement, including ICE — but has been the subject of more than 100 allegations that it has a defect that allows it to fire “uncommanded.”

            The Brad

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              You’d also think the CBP guy carrying the gun away from the scene would have had some reaction visible in the video had it unexpectedly gone off in his hand.

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                Either way, from what I can tell, the whole thing about him obstructing the agents looks to be complete crap.

                The Brad

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                  #201

                  No he was filming them and he tried to help the woman they pushed to the ground who was also filming them. That got him pepper sprayed, tackled, and then shot 10 times.

                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    Looking for an off ramp?

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                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      He damn well should be.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        It would do a lot of good if this one got a real investigation and a prosecution if warranted. Which it looks like it is.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Walz on the call:

                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              It would do a lot of good if this one got a real investigation and a prosecution if warranted. Which it looks like it is.

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                              @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                              It would do a lot of good if this one got a real investigation and a prosecution if warranted. Which it looks like it is.

                              Unlikely. The head FBI agent in Minneapolis office resigned because they wanted him(?) to look more into Good and her wife than what actually happened.

                              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                By the way that was the prosecutor who was leading the corruption case against the Somalis and had hinted that there was some government involvement or acquiescence.

                                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                  First casualty?

                                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                    They're going to take her out back only for her to see a dog holding a shotgun.

                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      They even suspended Bovino's access to his social media account.

                                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                        Interesting.

                                        I guess that President Trump does not have the President Truman "buck stops here" sign on his desk.

                                        (But, in President Trumps defense, it is a rare politician who take responsibility when something goes wrong. Even if they gave the "order", some staff member is the one caught.)

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                                          Good breakdown here.

                                          Link to video

                                          Education is extremely important.

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