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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/02/us/politics/ice-somali-migrants-minneapolis-st-paul.html

    The Trump administration is launching an intensive immigration enforcement operation primarily targeting hundreds of undocumented Somali immigrants in the Minneapolis-St. Paul region, ...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/02/us/politics/trump-somalia.html

    [Trump] said Somalia “stinks and we don’t want them in our country.” He described Representative Ilhan Omar, Democrat of Minnesota, who came to the United States from Somalia as a refugee and became a citizen 25 years ago, as “garbage.”

    “We could go one way or the other, and we’re going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into our country,” Mr. Trump said. “She’s garbage. Her friends are garbage. ..."

    Wonder what the sentiment on the ground is when it comes to the Somali immigrants in Minnesota.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      My own bias showing here but removing undocumented Somalis is probably better for the country in the long run than removing a similar number of Latin American nannies or Home Depot day laborers.

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      • MikM Offline
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        I'd have to agree. They've made a godawful mess of their own country.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          #4

          Not to mention Islam above a certain percentage becomes a threat to western civilization and small-l liberal values. Latinos not so much.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            I always found it funny that folks from such a hot place migrated to such a cold place. FYI the main "hub" (similar to Little Italy, China Town, etc...) is the Somali group you see here:

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            • MikM Offline
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              Balkanization.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • Tom-KT Offline
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                If they remove all those Somalis who's going to be left to vote for Ilhan Omar?

                Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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                  The problem isn’t the undocumented Somalis, it’s the ones documented and registered to vote in Ilhan and whasserface in the Senate that is the problem. They move into one small congressional district and suddenly one extremely small outlier migrant group wields outsized political power in a divided nation.

                  And while a lot of these far right groups can be bigoted and irrationally xenophobic, their point about there being some cultures that can’t truly be folded into our American tapestry is not without some merit.

                  The Brad

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                  • Tom-KT Tom-K

                    If they remove all those Somalis who's going to be left to vote for Ilhan Omar?

                    MikM Offline
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                    @Tom-K said in Somalis in Minnesota ...:

                    If they remove all those Somalis who's going to be left to vote for Ilhan Omar?

                    Another fringe benefit!

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      The problem isn’t the undocumented Somalis, it’s the ones documented and registered to vote in Ilhan and whasserface in the Senate that is the problem. They move into one small congressional district and suddenly one extremely small outlier migrant group wields outsized political power in a divided nation.

                      And while a lot of these far right groups can be bigoted and irrationally xenophobic, their point about there being some cultures that can’t truly be folded into our American tapestry is not without some merit.

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Somalis in Minnesota ...:

                      And while a lot of these far right groups can be bigoted and irrationally xenophobic, their point about there being some cultures that can’t truly be folded into our American tapestry is not without some merit.

                      There's nobody that hates intolerant people more than other intolerant people.

                      I was only joking

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        #11

                        "It's really going to save us on the budget getting to film in America." https://buff.ly/ltF3oMa

                        image.png

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            Finally. (The federal investigations began in 2022)

                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Finally. (The federal investigations began in 2022)

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                              @jon-nyc said in Somalis in Minnesota ...:

                              (The federal investigations began in 2022)

                              A two or three year investigation under the previous administration that resulted in what, exactly? Objectively less than what this youtube independent journalist's story will result in.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                I think 65 convictions so far but it’s ongoing. It didn’t stop and restart.

                                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                  Every administration claims credit for what was begun under past ones. It's a shame, but it is what we've come to accept, like so many other things we should not countenance.

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    I think 65 convictions so far but it’s ongoing. It didn’t stop and restart.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Somalis in Minnesota ...:

                                    I think 65 convictions so far but it’s ongoing. It didn’t stop and restart.

                                    Not enough to stop ongoing fraud obvious enough to be uncovered by a random youtube independent journalist.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      As far as I know, you're both right. The 2022 stuff was for the Feeing Our Future scandal, whereas this is more daycare and other health/care related fraud. BTW my DOJ friend (who resigned somewhat out of protest earlier this year) was the one leading the press releases for the Feeding Our Future scandal... we were out to dinner one night in downtown Minneapolis and he was hinting that he was in town for a major fraud bust, which it was (and still is).

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                                        Wow.

                                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                          Dontchaknow!!

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