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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    By the way Attia warns guys our age about going for deadlift PRs due to injury risk. Squats too. He’s worried about axial load.

    He doesn’t quite say don’t do it, but he’s close. Be careful.

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    @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

    By the way Attia warns guys our age about going for deadlift PRs due to injury risk. Squats too. He’s worried about axial load.

    He doesn’t quite say don’t do it, but he’s close. Be careful.

    3 reps is the lowest I ever go. I never do singles.

    I did have my share of injuries due to squats and deadlifts (such as hernia that required non-trivial surgery). I have become smarter in how to avoid injury.

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      That's impressive, Klaus.

      At my gym a lot of the equipment is labeled as designed and manufactured in Italy. And there's some interesting Da Vinci type contraptions, so it checks out. But the weights are still labeled in pounds. I only imagine the shipping. But I'm sure they're disassemblable.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        I use a hex bar for deadlifts and a machine for squats. But even then I’m doing weights where I can do 8-10 reps.

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        @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

        I use a hex bar for deadlifts and a machine for squats. But even then I’m doing weights where I can do 8-10 reps.

        Hex bars are great. I love the more natural grip. But after I've trained straight bar deadlifts with a physiotherapist, I now got the technique down.

        I also do machine squats. I lack ankle mobility (but am working on that). This kind of machine is my favorite:

        6f6c55b7-75a8-4baa-a4b8-f5dda9afcecf-image.png

        When I do squats, I do superset them with calve raises (which in turn double as ankle mobility stretches) on the same machine with the same weight. Very efficient training.

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          Arsenal, I see a lot of that in my gym.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @Klaus said in Speaking of Gyms…:

            Benching 100kg is a much nicer smaller number than benching 225.

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            @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

            @Klaus said in Speaking of Gyms…:

            Benching 100kg is a much nicer smaller number than benching 225.

            Thanks for the idea for a cute Bösendorfer video… I’m going to have the 145lb guy in the store “bench” a 225…

            The Brad

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            • KlausK Klaus

              @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

              I use a hex bar for deadlifts and a machine for squats. But even then I’m doing weights where I can do 8-10 reps.

              Hex bars are great. I love the more natural grip. But after I've trained straight bar deadlifts with a physiotherapist, I now got the technique down.

              I also do machine squats. I lack ankle mobility (but am working on that). This kind of machine is my favorite:

              6f6c55b7-75a8-4baa-a4b8-f5dda9afcecf-image.png

              When I do squats, I do superset them with calve raises (which in turn double as ankle mobility stretches) on the same machine with the same weight. Very efficient training.

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              @Klaus

              I use that type of machine. In fact you used it here at my gym. I didn’t at the time as I had stitches in my leg.

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @Klaus said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                Benching 100kg is a much nicer smaller number than benching 225.

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                @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                @Klaus said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                Benching 100kg is a much nicer smaller number than benching 225.

                Well, 102kg vs 100kg ... 😫

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                  I like expressing my bike distances in km and my weights lifted in lbs.

                  Seems more impressive.

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    I like to say something like "3 klicks down the road". Sounds so much cooler than 3km.

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      @jon-nyc said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                      I use a hex bar for deadlifts and a machine for squats. But even then I’m doing weights where I can do 8-10 reps.

                      Hex bars are great. I love the more natural grip. But after I've trained straight bar deadlifts with a physiotherapist, I now got the technique down.

                      I also do machine squats. I lack ankle mobility (but am working on that). This kind of machine is my favorite:

                      6f6c55b7-75a8-4baa-a4b8-f5dda9afcecf-image.png

                      When I do squats, I do superset them with calve raises (which in turn double as ankle mobility stretches) on the same machine with the same weight. Very efficient training.

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                      @Klaus said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                      When I do squats, I do superset them with calve raises (which in turn double as ankle mobility stretches) on the same machine with the same weight. Very efficient training.

                      Good idea. Especially since the calf raise machine at my gym hurts my shoulders as it isn't padded enough.

                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        Yes, it's exactly the same at my gym. And the seated calf raises suck they don't train the gastrocnemius.

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                          It's because we're Mr Olympias using far more weight than the padding designer envisioned.

                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                            Try barbell hip thrusts. I will never understand how people can do this with heavy weights, even when they add one of these standard round barbell padding things. I do hip thrusts with a machine and add a full 5x10x10in or so padding mat that distributes the load over the full hip and belly. The exhaustion is painful enough, I don't need extra pain.

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                              Yeah, we have one of those. My personal trainer would have me use it back in the day.

                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                I like watching the lovely young women use it. Quite suggestive.

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                  Yep. In my gym it’s mostly women who use it. Latinas.

                                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                    https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BkdVgUNka/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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                                      Those are funny.

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                      • KlausK Klaus

                                        Try barbell hip thrusts. I will never understand how people can do this with heavy weights, even when they add one of these standard round barbell padding things. I do hip thrusts with a machine and add a full 5x10x10in or so padding mat that distributes the load over the full hip and belly. The exhaustion is painful enough, I don't need extra pain.

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                                        @Klaus said in Speaking of Gyms…:

                                        Try barbell hip thrusts. I will never understand how people can do this with heavy weights, even when they add one of these standard round barbell padding things. I do hip thrusts with a machine and add a full 5x10x10in or so padding mat that distributes the load over the full hip and belly. The exhaustion is painful enough, I don't need extra pain.

                                        There's a trainer named Bret Contreras who trains mostly women - and said that he expects his clients to be able to do 20x315 lbs. Many of his clients can do over 400 lbs. I have a hip thrust machine and can only do about 20x150 lbs - on a good and motivated day.

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                                          Listened to a long interview with Bret recently. Taught me that females really want big butts.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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