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Subsidizing Homeborrowership

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote last edited by jon-nyc
    #6

    I did mention that that would be the entirety of your equity. Though that depends on population growth outpacing housing stock growth, which, while always true in our lifetimes, is really now dependent on immigration.

    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #7

      Why not perpetual mortgages?

      The UK has perpetual bonds. Some are left over from the War of Austrian Succession (~1750). They used to fuck with our modeling.

      It formalizes the idea that you make payments as low as possible and just accept that your equity will only be from appreciation

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        #8

        Of course it only lowers your payment in our example by $21 a month. lol

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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          #9

          By the way it looks like the UK called all its remaining perpetual bonds in 2015 - after I was out of the business. (They were always callable)

          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            #10

            You know, for having the most powerful country with the best GDP and all that... we sure are putting a ton of bandaids over near-existential economic problems.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              #11

              It's easy to understand where the economic populism of the young generation is coming from. And it's not stupid, not at all. Individual policies might be, but not the perspective on unfairness and hopelessness.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                #12

                I couldn’t agree more.

                If we would just make it legal to build housing everywhere it would go a long way to reliving it, IMO.

                (When I say ‘everywhere’ I mean throughout the country, I don’t mean, say, in national parks).

                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  #13

                  https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/trumps-50-year-mortgage-plan-is-getting-panned-allies-blame-this-man-00645654?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    It's easy to understand where the economic populism of the young generation is coming from. And it's not stupid, not at all. Individual policies might be, but not the perspective on unfairness and hopelessness.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    @Horace said in Subsidizing Homeborrowership:

                    It's easy to understand where the economic populism of the young generation is coming from. And it's not stupid, not at all. Individual policies might be, but not the perspective on unfairness and hopelessness.

                    Just wait till the AI layoffs hit.

                    While I’m an optimist and think there will be potential massive economic opportunities, that will be after quite a bit of economic pain for many people….

                    The Brad

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                    • MikM Away
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                      #15

                      Agreed, LuFin. I'm gently coaxing my daughter to get on top of this and be the one who pilots using it in project management at her firm. i say gently because she's up to her ass in alligators at the moment through poorly written contracts and scopes.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/trumps-50-year-mortgage-plan-is-getting-panned-allies-blame-this-man-00645654?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

                        AxtremusA Offline
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                        @jon-nyc said in Subsidizing Homeborrowership:

                        https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/trumps-50-year-mortgage-plan-is-getting-panned-allies-blame-this-man-00645654?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

                        It’s like they don’t expect Trump to be able to think for himself. How rude!

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