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The 2028 GOP primary thread

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
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    #30

    What may kill Vance is exactly that. Trump fatigue. Whether or not he'd behave similarly, he may still get tagged with it.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      I think in hindsight he made a mistake going after Trump. He could have done all the attention seeking stuff he did while throwing credit at Trump and licking the boot and he’d be vice president right now.

      I say hindsight. The idea that people wanted Trumpism without Trump seemed reasonable at the time to me also.

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      #31

      @jon-nyc said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

      I think in hindsight he made a mistake going after Trump. He could have done all the attention seeking stuff he did while throwing credit at Trump and licking the boot and he’d be vice president right now.

      I say hindsight. The idea that people wanted Trumpism without Trump seemed reasonable at the time to me also.

      I think he tried to ride the middle on it too much. COVID was the biggest crack between Trump and that base. They despise Fauci. Trump gave him a commendation on his last day. They hate the vaccine. It was the Trump vaccine. They hate the lockdown, that was Trump. They hate all of the times that different narratives were stated by the health departments as being fake news only to be proven true. They hate the way the government tossed around checks and money and the inflation that resulted (Trump as well as Biden). They hate the abuse and sheer fraud of the Payroll Protection “loans”, that was Trump. DeSantis was the one guy that could really have laid this at Trump’s feet. Especially after the way they went to war over Florida reopening.

      If I was on DeSantis campaign staff, every frigging commercial would have started with the official Presidential Commendation. When Trump gave his denial and said he didn’t know who did that, I would have had DeSantis ask him if he “was a liar or incompetent, which is it?”. I would have started every debate by politely greeting Trump and asking about his good friend, Dr. Fauci. I would have had him read off the many already known of PPE grants given to companies that were actually posting record profits even without the government money during the pandemic.

      The message would have been “When we needed you, you failed us. Again, and again, and again.” Lame Donald…

      The Brad

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        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        • MikM Away
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          #33

          I like Vance OK, but he's vulnerable. His association with Trump was the fast track to a potential WH bid, but it comes with a whole lot of baggage. The GOP also has a far deeper bench of attractive candidates.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • 89th8 Online
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            I was thinking today. If Obama ran again in 2028, I’d think he’d win by a landslide.

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              #35

              I think if W ran, he’d win in a landslide.

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                I think if W ran, he’d win in a landslide.

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                #36

                @LuFins-Dad said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

                I think if W ran, he’d win in a landslide.

                He’d have my vote. One imagines he’s learned his lesson on Mideast nation building.

                Of course he’ll be 82 in November of 28.

                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                • MikM Away
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                  #37

                  Cruz is a sharp guy. Whoever runs, it's going to be a brutal primary. I now have concerns about Rubio since he reportedly supports Venezuela military action. We don't need W-II.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • 89th8 Online
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                    Maybe someone has already said this, but what if Vance runs with Trump as his VP?

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                    • MikM Away
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                      wrote last edited by
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                      Is that legal?

                      I don't think Trump will do anything like that. This term is taking a lot out of him.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        Maybe someone has already said this, but what if Vance runs with Trump as his VP?

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                        @89th said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

                        Maybe someone has already said this, but what if Vance runs with Trump as his VP?

                        Vance will have to promise, very publicly and very frequently, that Trump will still be his boss, for Trump to go along with a scheme like this; and Vance will have to thank Trump very publicly five times a day for the privilege.

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Is that legal?

                          I don't think Trump will do anything like that. This term is taking a lot out of him.

                          89th8 Online
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                          @Mik said in The 2028 GOP primary thread:

                          Is that legal?

                          I don't think Trump will do anything like that. This term is taking a lot out of him.

                          Yeah might not be legal based on the 12th amendment, but when has the law stopped anyone!

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                            It's not legal and it won't happen. And most of Trump's pure idiocy will go away with him. I am not concerned by post-trump "Maga", whatever that will mean. I'm just not seeing the crazy in people like Vance or Rubio.

                            Education is extremely important.

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