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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    Just like one should not have expected "Trump would be different," I also do not think it wise to expect "Vance will be different."

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @Axtremus said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

    Just like one should not have expected "Trump would be different," I also do not think it wise to expect "Vance will be different."

    I'm just hoping for the best whoever gets elected. I find it hard to believe that things will get worse than they are currently, but I've been wrong before on that count.

    I was only joking

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      jon-nyc
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      Seems as good a place as any for this.

      There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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        #72

        You think his failure to mention ‘Jews’ or to condemn the Nazis was strategic?

        There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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          No I don't think he's afraid to say he doesn't like Nazis. I don't think he's afraid to say he likes Jews and Israel. His boss sure isn't.

          Education is extremely important.

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            jon-nyc
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            #74

            Different calculations. He seems to be far more hesitant than his boss is about alienating any part of the right.

            There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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              #75

              Being against Hitler would be a political liability, but being against the Holocaust is just fine. Interesting "calculation". Trying to preserve the more measured Hitler fans on the right, who actually thought the Holocaust crossed a line?

              Education is extremely important.

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                #76

                @jon-nyc I think it was somewhat calculated. President Trump has no filter and whatever he thinks, he posts. I dont believe that VP Vance is the same. More like President Obama, where everything is carefully thought out before saying anything. Very little "off the cuff" stuff.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  #77

                  Meagan Kelly and Mark Levine, or as she calls him Micro Penis, go at it.

                  There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                    This reminds me, as much of Trump's ecosystem does, of a 3rd grade recess fight where in this case you have 2 people surrounded by students, and instead of talking to each other they are yelling their insights for the crowds to hear and seeing who gets the most cheers.

                    They say Americans read at a 7th grade level, I sure wish we could get there again.

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                    • MikM Away
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                      They all have cooties.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        #80

                        Micropeni make for strange bedfellows.

                        There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                          We are such a joke. Jesus.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Micropeni make for strange bedfellows.

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                            jon-nyc said:

                            Micropeni make for strange bedfellows.

                            You can never know for sure if you were the first human being to ever craft a particular sentence but I’d bet large on the above.

                            There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                              There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                                Axtremus
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                                Very succinct.

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                                  Minimally honest. Good way to put it.

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                                    He sounds like an eight year old kid that didn't get what he wanted for Christmas. 😠

                                    Trump did promise all of that stuff but every politician promises a lot of stuff. That's just politics. The fact of the matter is that neither Trump nor Harris nor Biden nor Newsom nor Vance nor anybody else who you elect is going to give you anything. It is just the way it is. But that's always been the way it is.

                                    Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                                    • Tom-KT Tom-K

                                      He sounds like an eight year old kid that didn't get what he wanted for Christmas. 😠

                                      Trump did promise all of that stuff but every politician promises a lot of stuff. That's just politics. The fact of the matter is that neither Trump nor Harris nor Biden nor Newsom nor Vance nor anybody else who you elect is going to give you anything. It is just the way it is. But that's always been the way it is.

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                                      @Tom-K said:

                                      He sounds like an eight year old kid that didn't get what he wanted for Christmas. 😠

                                      Trump did promise all of that stuff but every politician promises a lot of stuff. That's just politics. The fact of the matter is that neither Trump nor Harris nor Biden nor Newsom nor Vance nor anybody else who you elect is going to give you anything. It is just the way it is. But that's always been the way it is.

                                      Suddenly Trump is just like all the other politicians? His followers have been telling us for years how he's completely different and everything has changed and he's overthrown the old order, and he has no reason to be corrupt as he's already a gazillionaire and he's looking out for the common man and all the rest of it.

                                      Now, it's fine and we have no need to worry as it's always been like this.

                                      Link to video

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Tom-KT Tom-K

                                        He sounds like an eight year old kid that didn't get what he wanted for Christmas. 😠

                                        Trump did promise all of that stuff but every politician promises a lot of stuff. That's just politics. The fact of the matter is that neither Trump nor Harris nor Biden nor Newsom nor Vance nor anybody else who you elect is going to give you anything. It is just the way it is. But that's always been the way it is.

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                                        @Tom-K said:
                                        Trump did promise all of that stuff but every politician promises a lot of stuff. That's just politics. The fact of the matter is that neither Trump nor Harris nor Biden nor Newsom nor Vance nor anybody else who you elect is going to give you anything. It is just the way it is. But that's always been the way it is.

                                        That argument is sounding more and more lame. Just because previous politicians lied sometimes, it's not OK to lie all the time. Every major politician did something so bad it was unprecedented at the time at least once. But it's different if a politician does this every day. Degree matters. It's not the same.

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                                        • KlausK Klaus

                                          @Tom-K said:
                                          Trump did promise all of that stuff but every politician promises a lot of stuff. That's just politics. The fact of the matter is that neither Trump nor Harris nor Biden nor Newsom nor Vance nor anybody else who you elect is going to give you anything. It is just the way it is. But that's always been the way it is.

                                          That argument is sounding more and more lame. Just because previous politicians lied sometimes, it's not OK to lie all the time. Every major politician did something so bad it was unprecedented at the time at least once. But it's different if a politician does this every day. Degree matters. It's not the same.

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                                          @Klaus said:

                                          @Tom-K said:
                                          Trump did promise all of that stuff but every politician promises a lot of stuff. That's just politics. The fact of the matter is that neither Trump nor Harris nor Biden nor Newsom nor Vance nor anybody else who you elect is going to give you anything. It is just the way it is. But that's always been the way it is.

                                          That argument is sounding more and more lame. Just because previous politicians lied sometimes, it's not OK to lie all the time. Every major politician did something so bad it was unprecedented at the time at least once. But it's different if a politician does this every day. Degree matters. It's not the same.

                                          It's not just that he lied. The avoidance of foreign wars was central to his platform and his America First philosophy and his condemnation of the neo-cons.

                                          Now, out of the blue we've always been at war with Eastasia.

                                          I was only joking

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