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  • 89th8 Offline
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    Vivek is right. Bring down costs, focus on merit. And yes, if you lose the latino cohort, you'll never win an election again.

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      Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.

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        Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.

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        @Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

        Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.

        Maybe people just don't like what the Republicans have done. They haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over the last year.

        Based on his Tweets, Trump seems to think he's their greatest asset. Nobody I speak to in real life thinks that way.

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          @Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

          Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.

          Maybe people just don't like what the Republicans have done. They haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over the last year.

          Based on his Tweets, Trump seems to think he's their greatest asset. Nobody I speak to in real life thinks that way.

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          @Doctor-Phibes said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

          @Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

          Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.

          Maybe people just don't like what the Republicans have done. They haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over the last year.

          Based on his Tweets, Trump seems to think he's their greatest asset. Nobody I speak to in real life thinks that way.

          I only see that sort of thing from Truth social, which I check periodically to get clued into market crashes and other facets of our interesting times.

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            @Doctor-Phibes said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

            @Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

            Everybody with a functioning brain knows that white identity politics is DOA electorally. What is not clear is the notion that white identity politics had anything to do with the GOP's losses on Tuesday. The left is very motivated to pretend that Fuentes is the new leader of the right, even though he has a small fraction of the influence that Kirk did, who was completely ignored.

            Maybe people just don't like what the Republicans have done. They haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over the last year.

            Based on his Tweets, Trump seems to think he's their greatest asset. Nobody I speak to in real life thinks that way.

            I only see that sort of thing from Truth social, which I check periodically to get clued into market crashes and other facets of our interesting times.

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            @Horace said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

            I only see that sort of thing from Truth social

            Well, Trump generally thinks he's the greatest human to walk the earth since Jesus Christ, so it kind of goes without saying that he thinks he's an asset rather than an asshat.

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                The thread.

                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    Told you he was smart. But he's probably more in tuned with the "right wing media apparatus" than most. I'll listen to VDH, but I challenge anybody who believe he's insane, though he is part of the right's media apparatus.

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                      the globalist class....proud circumsised member (double entendre intended i guess)

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                        more on the above

                        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/nov/20/nick-fuentes-tucker-carlson

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                          apropos me being a globalist...

                          https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nick-fuentes-kill-globalists-at-cnn_n_58fe7e95e4b00fa7de16ed9e

                          “Who runs the media? Globalists. Time to kill the globalists. I don’t want to not watch CNN. I don’t want CNN to go out of business. I don’t want CNN to be more honest. I want people that run CNN to be arrested and deported or hanged because this is deliberate.”

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                            What is "Globalist"?

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                              The idea that nations should not be competing with one another. And presumably that there would be a mechanism by which this cooperation between nations would be enforced.

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                                AI Overview
                                The term "globalist" is widely recognized as an antisemitic dog whistle or coded word when used in certain political and conspiratorial contexts. The idea that Jews act as "globalists" is a modern manifestation of long-standing conspiracy theories alleging a secret international Jewish circle plotting for world domination or control over global finance, governments, and media.

                                That’s AI not me, I’m more of flat earther myself.

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                                  That's a far cry from what chatGPT said. It did acknowledge that in certain contexts it can carry the implication of antisemitism, but that was a corner usage. Perhaps not so corner in certain places in punditry.

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                                    Vivek chimes in.

                                    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/17/opinion/republican-identity-divide.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U8.AV4v.kVMldQaLG0T2&smid=url-share

                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      Vivek chimes in.

                                      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/17/opinion/republican-identity-divide.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U8.AV4v.kVMldQaLG0T2&smid=url-share

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                                        said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

                                        Vivek chimes in.

                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/17/opinion/republican-identity-divide.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U8.AV4v.kVMldQaLG0T2&smid=url-share

                                        Good for him. More people need to say this stuff very clearly, and stop this growing trend toward the Fuentes-brigade.

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                                          Megyn replied too. Putting it back here to keep the topic consolidated.

                                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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