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American obesity is on the decline

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    I've had no side effects whatsoever and the injections are no big deal. I'm on a medium dose and my appetite is quite suppressed. I think also my body has gotten used to 1500 calories a day, so when I decide to go off the Zepbound I won't have a big rebound. The drugs help but making sure the way you live is compatible is key.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      The next generation of drugs will make an even bigger dent. A pill will be more popular than injections.

      MikM Away
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      @jon-nyc said in American obesity is on the decline:

      The next generation of drugs will make an even bigger dent. A pill will be more popular than injections.

      Especially on cost.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        Those robotic shoes will surely undermine these advances.

        I was only joking

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        • MikM Mik

          I've had no side effects whatsoever and the injections are no big deal. I'm on a medium dose and my appetite is quite suppressed. I think also my body has gotten used to 1500 calories a day, so when I decide to go off the Zepbound I won't have a big rebound. The drugs help but making sure the way you live is compatible is key.

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          @Mik said in American obesity is on the decline:

          I've had no side effects whatsoever and the injections are no big deal. I'm on a medium dose and my appetite is quite suppressed. I think also my body has gotten used to 1500 calories a day, so when I decide to go off the Zepbound I won't have a big rebound. The drugs help but making sure the way you live is compatible is key.

          That weight lifting schedule on 1500 calories a day is quite something. I hope you're getting lots of protein.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Away
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            I eat a good amount of protein. My cereals in the morning all have 10 grams or so, I drink bone broth daily for the collagen, and dinner usually has one lean protein at least. I'm looking in to how to get more non-meat protein as meat causes inflammation and is hard on kidneys.

            My calorie count is due to my entirely too efficient metabolism. 10,000 years ago I'd be king, but in today's plenty it's a disadvantage. I read somewhere I should be eating like 3,000 a day just to maintain. I'd gain a couple pounds a week like that.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • HoraceH Online
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              I think it would be impossible to fit a problematic amount of lean meat into a 1500 calorie diet. Unless there is an individual health concern.

              I’ve been brining chicken breasts and sous videing them at 142 degrees. Quite the moist delicious delicacy. I didn’t know chicken breast could be that good.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • MikM Away
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                Yes, if you start with good quality chicken and brine them they can be quite tasty. I like to get air chilled birds.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  I only tried chicken that way once and was bothered by the texture. It seemed undercooked even though I knew it was safe.

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I only tried chicken that way once and was bothered by the texture. It seemed undercooked even though I knew it was safe.

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                    @jon-nyc you eat pizza with a fork. It checks out that you need your chicken cooked to 170.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Sous Vide sounds so much more sophisticated than 'Boil in the bag'.

                      Then again, the Italians eat their pizza with a knife and fork, and they're so cool that they can say 'ciao' without being a complete twat.

                      I was only joking

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                        I don’t really think the obesity epidemic could have actually gotten worse. There was really only one direction to go…

                        The Brad

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                        • 89th8 Online
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                          Yeah the market has changed. Does McDonalds even have the "supersize me?" option any more? Heck 15 years ago the only healthy option was basically "Subway... eat fresh!" (more on that below) but now there's plenty of healthy and protein-dense options out there in fast food land.

                          Subway...if you have a good memory, you'll remember I lost 60 pounds over 2 years during my bachelor days by eating the same 6" subway sandwich for dinner every night. It was delicious and did the trick. Also running a marathon, helped LOL.

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                            Yeah the market has changed. Does McDonalds even have the "supersize me?" option any more? Heck 15 years ago the only healthy option was basically "Subway... eat fresh!" (more on that below) but now there's plenty of healthy and protein-dense options out there in fast food land.

                            Subway...if you have a good memory, you'll remember I lost 60 pounds over 2 years during my bachelor days by eating the same 6" subway sandwich for dinner every night. It was delicious and did the trick. Also running a marathon, helped LOL.

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                            @89th said in American obesity is on the decline:

                            you'll remember I lost 60 pounds over 2 years during my bachelor days by eating the same 6" subway sandwich for dinner every night.

                            The exact same one? No wonder you lost weight!

                            I was only joking

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                            • 89th8 Online
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                              Haha yes, it was the club sandwich on wheat bread, with jalapenos. Also with it was a bag of those "thin" potato chips and a diet coke. Anyway, that meal was probably 500 calories. Combined with something similar at lunch and a normal "on the go" breakfast, and I was probably sitting at around 1500 calories per day. Over time that is easy math to lose weight.

                              Hey I'm at 219 this morning! Peaked at 232 on July 24 this year... goal is to get back to 175 in 2 years, and at least down to 200 by next summer. Nothing too fast.

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                              • MikM Away
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                                Yeah, fast weight loss is not the goal - life modification is. Otherwise you'll just put it back on, plus more.

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Yeah, fast weight loss is not the goal - life modification is. Otherwise you'll just put it back on, plus more.

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                                  @Mik said in American obesity is on the decline:

                                  Yeah, fast weight loss is not the goal - life modification is. Otherwise you'll just put it back on, plus more.

                                  Have you considered the King Charles weight loss method (TM)? The well known 17th century English monarch lost 11 pounds of useless fat in less than a minute via a revolutionary life-modification, and never put back on another ounce.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    Yeah, fast weight loss is not the goal - life modification is. Otherwise you'll just put it back on, plus more.

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                                    @Mik said in American obesity is on the decline:

                                    Yeah, fast weight loss is not the goal - life modification is. Otherwise you'll just put it back on, plus more.

                                    True. When I got back in shape around 2009 I was able to stay that way for a few years, until maybe 2019 or so. What got me back from the 180s to 230 over the last 5 years is an excuse salad of... 1) eating like I was still working out, 2) not in my 20s anymore, or 30s for that matter, and 3) having the 3rd kid absolutely demolished any ounce of free time during the day and also getting up 1-2x per night with the kids meant I hadn't seen 8 hours of sleep in almost 7 years. That last part is finally starting to shift for me... going from a 5.5 hrs average to near 6.5 hrs lately, and hopefully closer to 7 hours a night soon as the kids get older. Like I said, excuse salad... did someone say salad?

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                                      I think you meant excuse burger.

                                      Mmmmm.....burger.

                                      I was only joking

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