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AI and partisan politics

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    Stopping technology has never been a popular position, and I don't expect either party to adopt any such position.

    There will be political issues around special taxes on AI productivity, I guess.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
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      #5

      In the past technology generally threatened workers in one industry while providing benefits to everyone else. I’m not sure we’ve had a single technology that threatened so many jobs across so many industries before.

      Also it’s not clear to me that the average Joe sees its benefits.

      So I can imagine a broader resistance to it than we’ve seen in the past.

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        #6

        Today’s Odd Lots podcast (a Bloomberg daily podcast about markets) is called ‘The Politics of AI are about to Explode’. Worth a listen.

        They talk about left v right but also intra-right tension between what their guest metaphorically calls ‘the two Ps - populism and Peter Thiel’. Though by the latter he’s really referring to the ‘tech right’ what with Elon being a huge donor, etc.

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          I'm glad I don't have to work anymore. But I am trying to incorporate AI as much as possible and encourage my daughter to do the same, to get ahead of eth curve on AI in project management.

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            Same. About a year ago I was like "no way..." now it's the default I use for quick things. In the last day I've used it for:

            • How much oil does my (specific model) snowblower need when I change the oil [did that yesterday]
            • Create a blog title graphic (picture) using Gemini for a post I needed to publish for a corporate thing
            • What is the best splunk query (in SPL) to do X, Y, and Z...
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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              Axtremus
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              I find that I usually go with AI when I ask/Google a “how to” question or want a broad overview of something.
              I often disable AI (using “-ai” in my Google queries) when I want to lookup specific information.

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                The distillation of the information is wonderful.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • MikM Mik

                  The distillation of the information is wonderful.

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                  kluurs
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  @Mik said in AI and partisan politics:

                  The distillation of the information is wonderful.

                  No question. Instead of going to 25 sites for comparisons on insurance, one can specify the type of information required, places to include in the search, criteria for review, etc - and instead of one having to search myriad sites, it's there in seconds - in graph form if so requested.

                  My stereo and audio storage installation - connecting devices from multiple vendors with different interfaces - a nightmare that would have taken forever to sort through - was relatively easy with the help of AI.

                  It's perhaps even more transformative than the introduction of the PC, the internet, and social media.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    Yes

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      89th
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                      #13

                      Hard to beat how transformative the PC and internet were, but I guess they're all built upon each other. The PC is the car, the internet are the roads, the social media are the crackheads on the corner asking for money, and AI is the ability to instantaneously map out the most efficient google maps route from A to B to include all traffic dynamics, construction sites, toll roads... i.e., it connect the dots and even suggests better dot connections.

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        The PC is the diagonal, and the internet is the frog. Because a good analogy is like a diagonal frog.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          #15

                          Florida GOP Gubernatorial candidate wants to ‘cancel AI data centers’.

                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            Mik
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                            #16

                            Doesn’t seem very GOPlike

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                              #17

                              Neither did MAGA 10 years ago. Maybe the realignment is just starting.

                              This reminds me of the comment from the guy on Odd Lots - who after Trump can effectively ‘straddle the two Ps’ (populism and Peter Thiel, the latter being an avatar for the tech right)

                              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Neither did MAGA 10 years ago. Maybe the realignment is just starting.

                                This reminds me of the comment from the guy on Odd Lots - who after Trump can effectively ‘straddle the two Ps’ (populism and Peter Thiel, the latter being an avatar for the tech right)

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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #18

                                @jon-nyc said in AI and partisan politics:

                                Neither did MAGA 10 years ago. Maybe the realignment is just starting.

                                This reminds me of the comment from the guy on Odd Lots - who after Trump can effectively ‘straddle the two Ps’ (populism and Peter Thiel, the latter being an avatar for the tech right)

                                Like anybody even knows what that is. Ok. I get it. Their ideas. Nobody even knows what that is.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #19

                                  Ask your buddy with a neutral prompt.

                                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #20

                                    Think about H1-Bs, tariffs, industrial policy re old school manufacturing, and yes, AI regulation

                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Think about H1-Bs, tariffs, industrial policy re old school manufacturing, and yes, AI regulation

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #21

                                      @jon-nyc you probably imagine that you and I disagree on some neutral point.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #22

                                        I disagree.

                                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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