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Shutdown Length

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote last edited by
    #93

    End in sight?

    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
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      #94

      Let us hope.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • MikM Offline
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        #95

        Details

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-senate-advances-bill-to-end-federal-shutdown/ar-AA1Q8zJV

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          #96

          Watch my flight get cancelled tomorrow anyway. lol

          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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          • MikM Offline
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            #97

            Quite possible. this will take a few days to unwind.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • MikM Offline
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              #98

              The senators who voted for the deal are a surprise. They took a deal that was offered a month ago and put the US through this wholly unnecessary trauma for no good end.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-very-bad-night-democrats-face-blowback-from-their-own-party-over-shutdown-deal/ar-AA1QaFLq

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                wrote last edited by
                #99

                Well they did get a promise for a vote on healthcare which wasn’t offered last time.

                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  It was offered a month ago.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    Isn’t that always the case though? Quite literally all of the shutdown battles have been won by the side seeking the clean CR. Until this year that was always the Dems. This year it was the GOP. Maybe they’ll internalize it now.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Isn’t that always the case though? Quite literally all of the shutdown battles have been won by the side seeking the clean CR. Until this year that was always the Dems. This year it was the GOP. Maybe they’ll internalize it now.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Shutdown Length:

                      Isn’t that always the case though? Quite literally all of the shutdown battles have been won by the side seeking the clean CR. Until this year that was always the Dems. This year it was the GOP. Maybe they’ll internalize it now.

                      (Snort)

                      The Brad

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                        Link to video

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          When you've lost MSNBC... this guy writes for Vox and MSNBC.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-achieved-the-worst-of-all-worlds-with-their-shutdown-strategy/ar-AA1QaWJP

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                          • MikM Mik

                            When you've lost MSNBC... this guy writes for Vox and MSNBC.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-achieved-the-worst-of-all-worlds-with-their-shutdown-strategy/ar-AA1QaWJP

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                            @Mik said in Shutdown Length:

                            When you've lost MSNBC... this guy writes for Vox and MSNBC.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-achieved-the-worst-of-all-worlds-with-their-shutdown-strategy/ar-AA1QaWJP

                            He, and Jon Stewart, are forgetting something. Fighting the “good fight” and opposing Trump at all costs is great politics in California and Massachusetts. States where Dem control is solid. But in purple states like PA, NH, NV, and Maine? You need crossover support. You need independents and even some Republican support. So you need to show some ability to compromise and actually legislate. Kaine in particular needed to get Northern Virginians back to work. Remember that specific polling of public sector labor unions (FFS, how do they even exist?) showed the majority supported this deal over three weeks ago. It even caused a split with the Dem aligned labor unions.

                            The Brad

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