HUD website right now

[LuFins Dad]

Oh no. It’s a government shutdown. So unprecedented. It will be the fall of the republic. A pox on both your houses. :yawn:

[jon-nyc]

These always worked out badly for the party that was trying to use the threat of a shutdown to enact a preferred policy rather than support a ‘clean’ CR.

For (I think) the first time, it’s the democrats in that role.

We’ll see how it works out for them.

[jon-nyc]

They should have been more creative and said ‘the democrats want to kill all the nation’s puppies and kittens’.

I mean, if you’re going to just make something up from whole cloth, why not swing for the fence?

[89th]

@LuFins-Dad time to set up a gofundme... as of 11am I cannot work (I'm a federal contractor), and do not get back--pay when the government re-opens. Time to tell the kids we're rationing the milk starting tonight.

On the plus side, I do have a garage slatwall project I've been meaning to get to!

[LuFins Dad]

[LuFins Dad]

@89th said in HUD website right now:

@LuFins-Dad time to set up a gofundme... as of 11am I cannot work (I'm a federal contractor), and do not get back--pay when the government re-opens. Time to tell the kids we're rationing the milk starting tonight.

On the plus side, I do have a garage slatwall project I've been meaning to get to!

Sorry to hear that. If worse comes to worse, I understand that we’re short on agricultural workers… That might help tide you over.

[Axtremus]

[jon-nyc]

My guess is Elon turned them off for his people.

He complained about them a while back and said he’d ‘fix’ it.

[jon-nyc]

Grok’s take:

As we discussed before, notes on high-profile conservative accounts (Vance, Musk, etc.) often underperform or vanish, per studies and user reports—potentially due to algorithmic tweaks, rater demographics, or manual intervention.

[jon-nyc]

Weird that the people blame the GOP for shutting down the government.

I think that’s just brand image at work.

Every shutdown in the last two decades followed this pattern:

One party wants a ‘clean’ CR to fund the government until normal appropriations bills can be passed

The other party senses their leverage and tries to use it to get a policy change done.

In every other case the GOP has been in the latter role and the Dems in the former. This time though it’s the Dems.

I think blaming the party attaching the new policy condition is reasonable, insofar as you want to pick a party to blame at all.

But people don’t seem to be taking that view this time. But I think that’s just motor memory at work.

[LuFins Dad]

There’s also the weird dynamic that a significant number of Conservatives hear “non-essential government shutdown” and say “Yes, please!”.

[jon-nyc]

Yeah so some people aren’t so much blaming them as crediting them.

[jon-nyc]

I’m starting to think that eventually caving would be the best route to a political win for the dems.

Most people haven’t paid attention to the cuts in healthcare that the GOP has signed into law. If they are reversed, they’ll never know they were there and Trump supporters who rely on them won’t realize how close they were to taking a big financial hit courtesy of their man in the white house.

The shutdown has put more of a spotlight on the cuts, especially the ACA subsidies, than we had before. Now if they come into effect the democrats can say ‘they did this to you we tried to stop them but they really really really wanted to increase your healthcare costs, so much so that they were willing to shutdown the government in order to get it done’.

Having said all that it’s not clear to me that schumer’s interests align with his party’s. He has a primary to avoid.

[89th]

I'm enjoying the shutdown so far. Took the kids to the zoo today.

[LuFins Dad]

Believe me, I get that the shutdowns have very serious effects and very real effects on good people. It still doesn’t change my opinion that the bloated monstrosity that is the US Bureaucracy needs a chainsaw taken to it.

[89th]

My coworker works for the Dept of Education. He said his out of office message that he wrote was later changed to this.

[jon-nyc]

Compelled political speech. Nice.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in HUD website right now:

Compelled political speech. Nice.

Yeah, this smacks me as being illegal. It’s possible for there to be a blanket response, but it shouldn’t be composed as if it’s coming from the individual that was addressed.

[Axtremus]

Just checking ... Still better than the alternative, right?

[LuFins Dad]

@Axtremus said in HUD website right now:

Just checking ... Still better than the alternative, right?

No need to stress. I’ll tell you when it isn’t.