Trump announces “the biggest medical breakthrough in US history”
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"the biggest medical breakthrough in US history"
Sometimes I wonder if Trump's history book only goes back like 6 months or something.
- Franklin invents bifocals
- Long introduces anesthesia for surgery (I'd say that is kinda helpful if you don't like the feeling of being cut open)
- Vaccine for cholera
- Vaccine for anthrax
- Vaccine for rabies
- Vaccine for typhoid fever
- Electrocardiograph
- Insulin for diabetes
- Vaccine for diptheria
- Vaccine for whooping cough
- Vaccine for tuberculosis
- Vaccine for tetanus
- Vaccine for yellow fever
- Vaccine for typhus
- Penicillin
- Tuberculosis antibiotic
- Vaccine for influenza
- Cardiac pacemaker
- Polio vaccine, kind of a big one
- Vaccine for measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, pneumonia, meningitis, hepatitis
- Sheep was cloned
- Human genome mapped
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Yeah 89 but be honest. If you had to choose between a world with anesthesia but without knowing what RFK Jr thinks of Tylenol, or in a world with no anesthesia but armed with the knowledge of RFK's thoughts on Tylenol, you'd obviously you'd choose the latter.
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Ah sorry, that sheep was Scottish. Or as @Doctor-Phibes would say, a nice fluffy lass from the high country.
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If the most memorable thing to come out of Donald Trump's presidency is that he bans Tylenol, I for one will finish the four years with a godawful headache.
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I think we need to fund a study looking at the link between fake suntans and being a dipshit.
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"the biggest medical breakthrough in US history"
Sometimes I wonder if Trump's history book only goes back like 6 months or something.
- Franklin invents bifocals
- Long introduces anesthesia for surgery (I'd say that is kinda helpful if you don't like the feeling of being cut open)
- Vaccine for cholera
- Vaccine for anthrax
- Vaccine for rabies
- Vaccine for typhoid fever
- Electrocardiograph
- Insulin for diabetes
- Vaccine for diptheria
- Vaccine for whooping cough
- Vaccine for tuberculosis
- Vaccine for tetanus
- Vaccine for yellow fever
- Vaccine for typhus
- Penicillin
- Tuberculosis antibiotic
- Vaccine for influenza
- Cardiac pacemaker
- Polio vaccine, kind of a big one
- Vaccine for measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, pneumonia, meningitis, hepatitis
- Sheep was cloned
- Human genome mapped
@89th said in Trump announces “the biggest medical breakthrough in US history”:
- Long introduces anesthesia for surgery (I'd say that is kinda helpful if you don't like the feeling of being cut open)
Anesthesia allows surgeons to take more time to perform surgeries. Before anesthesia surgeons had to rush to finish to avoid inflicting too much pain on the patients. Anesthesia opened to door to more complicated surgeries that require more time on the operating table.
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Comeon, you all watched the video. Everyone knows it’s about time to announce Trump uploading his consciousness into Grok.
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LOL it's all so embarrassing. In other words...while Trump is literally saying "Tylenol is NO GOOD", this release says acetaminophen might pose a risk but other studies show it doesn't, but also studies show that having a fever while pregnant can be risky to the child and only acetaminophen is allowed to be taken for a fever... so basically don't get a fever when you're pregnant otherwise you might have to take dangerous medicine." That is Claritin Clear to me!
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Who is advising POTUS this crapola? I realise he's surrounded himself with "yes" people.
You'd expect some respected medical journals to have published something, so is there any evidence in NEJM, JAMA, JCI, AIntMed etc?
(Tylenol is called paracetamol in the UK ) -
I think we need to keep in mind that back in April RFK promised, literally, that by September 2025 “we would know what caused the autism epidemic” and would be able “to eliminate those causes”.
My guess is he actually believed the “real data” implicating vaccines would be there for his cranks to easily discover, sitting in some locked room that one needed a BigPharma badge to enter.
Perhaps he needed something to tell the boss so he decided to do this. Of course babies will suffer as Trump will have scared many MAGA/MAHA moms off Tylenol so their fevers will in many cases go untreated.
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Makari (FDA head) is quoted as saying that a collection of studies, including from the Boston Birth Cohort, the Nurses Health Study and Mount Sinai-Harvard have established that there is a "causal relationship between prenatal acetaminophen use and neurodevelopmental disorders of ADHD and autism spectrum disorder." Does the evidence support this?
Short answer: No. The FDA itself is not saying the link is causal. In fact, in the FDA’s own physician notice released alongside the White House messaging, the agency states plainly: “a causal relationship has not been established” (their emphasis). 
Here’s the quick evidence check:
• What FDA actually did/says: FDA began a process to consider label changes noting a possible association between prenatal acetaminophen use and later neurodevelopmental diagnoses, and it sent doctors a notice. But the agency’s language is careful: association ≠ causation, and it explicitly says causality hasn’t been shown. 
• Makary’s claim of a “causal relationship”: That overstates the literature. Studies he cites (e.g., the Boston Birth Cohort/JAMA Psychiatry cord-biomarker analysis) report associations—including dose-response patterns—but they are observational and susceptible to confounding (indication for use, familial and genetic factors, measurement error). They do not prove causation. 
• Highest-quality counter-evidence: Large, family-based designs that control for shared genetics and environment (e.g., a 2024 nationwide Swedish cohort in JAMA) do not find evidence of a causal link once those factors are accounted for. Professional groups have leaned on this kind of evidence in their responses. 
• Professional guidance right now:
• The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) called the new government messaging not backed by the full body of evidence and reiterated that no reputable study has proven acetaminophen in pregnancy causes ASD/ADHD. 
• The Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine (SMFM) likewise continues to advise that acetaminophen is appropriate when clinically indicated during pregnancy. 
• Media framing vs. documents: Some coverage and quotes may imply the “head of FDA” endorsed causality, but the agency’s own notice contradicts that. If you’re seeing headlines or TV segments asserting “causal,” they’re out over their skis relative to the FDA’s written position. 
• Mount Sinai/Harvard items: Recent institutional communications and reviews from that collaboration say “may be linked” and call for cautious, time-limited use and more research—not that causality has been proven. Bottom line: Evidence is mixed and mostly observational; causation hasn’t been demonstrated. FDA’s official documents say so, and leading OB societies agree. If you want, I can walk through the specific studies Makary named (Boston Birth Cohort, Nurses’ Health Study, Mount Sinai/Harvard) and show exactly what each did—and didn’t—conclude. 
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Don't worry, luckily we still have Thalidomide if pregnant ladies don't feel good.
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Ugh that's depressing, Klaus.
Regarding the autism thing, we discussed this a while back... much of this "epidemic" might just be increased awareness, testing/diagnosis, and widening of qualifies as part of the autism spectrum.
Somewhat (barely) related, in the early 90s my mom had a miscarriage (viable until born, then basically a stillbirth) and a few neighbors all had similar stillbirths at the time. It was almost weird, the cemetery where my brother was buried has like 4 plots in a row of neighbor (kids) who also had a similar fate. My mom once mentioned the rumor was they did some chemical/bug spraying the previous year which some of the moms think was the cause. Of course... never will know.
EDIT: The helicopter did have a Tylenol logo on it... hmmm
… calling it a “clown car” at this point may be insulting to the clowns.