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Wow give the left credit for successful spin

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote last edited by
    #17

    There’s no prompt and I don’t believe it’s personal to me in any way. You just go to the search tab in Twitter and the algorithm summarizes ‘today’s news’. Of course it’s different now. It’s been 12 hours.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #18

      I see. This morning it says "leftist gunman". Indicating something obvious and banal about reality, rather than anything about messaging spin.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • MikM Offline
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        #19

        My leftist brother has been strangely silent these past few days. It is my hope that the tsunami of anti-Trump, anti-conservative, anti-GOP posts that have characterized his social media presence have given him pause to consider his role in fomenting the hate that led to this.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          #20

          I’m curious as to what, if any, common patterns or parallels can be drawn between Robinson with Crooks and Mangione. All three under thirty males (that is why I leave out the much older Routh) of documented above average intelligence and coming from seemingly good family backgrounds and no (known) prior criminal acts. Was there a common but, as yet, unrecognised, pathology at play? Or was it simply a matter of failing prey to the extremist and banal populism that leads to amoral and nihilistic thinking and, in these three instances, an immoral criminal act with tragic consequences? I don’t know.

          Elbows up!

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote last edited by jon-nyc
            #21

            There’s some spin going on in right wing circles with folks trying to use Kirk as a weapon in the pro- v anti-Israel debate.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              #22

              The left is also providing some credible reports that Kirk was wavering on Israel. It's not entirely unimaginable that Kirk was wavering on Israel. Lots of people are, who used to give them full-throated support.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • MikM Offline
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                wrote last edited by
                #23

                Especially with this latest push to occupy Gaza.

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  #24

                  Not certain that people are wavering on Israel so much as relinquishing their earlier support of Netanyahu and his governing coalition in dealing with the Palestinian question in Gaza and the West Bank.

                  Elbows up!

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                    #25

                    Fair point

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      #26

                      This seems ill advised.

                      The people who believe Israel had a role aren’t going to be persuaded by Bibi denying it. All this does is plant the idea in people’s heads who otherwise might not follow the fringes of magastan.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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