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Wow give the left credit for successful spin

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @LuFins-Dad said in Wow give the left credit for successful spin:

    @Horace said in Wow give the left credit for successful spin:

    @jon-nyc said in Wow give the left credit for successful spin:

    I think you misread my post. It was only ever about the what the title says it is about.

    I draw no conclusions about anything based on the AI headlines in your original post.

    I draw one. At the time the algorithm generated the headline, the left was winning the spin war on Twitter.

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    @jon-nyc said in Wow give the left credit for successful spin:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Wow give the left credit for successful spin:

    @Horace said in Wow give the left credit for successful spin:

    @jon-nyc said in Wow give the left credit for successful spin:

    I think you misread my post. It was only ever about the what the title says it is about.

    I draw no conclusions about anything based on the AI headlines in your original post.

    I draw one. At the time the algorithm generated the headline, the left was winning the spin war on Twitter.

    Only you know the prompt you used. Since you’ve iterated twice that the AI response meant something about a certain point in time, and haven’t updated your experimental results for our current point in time, I assume that the current results aren’t fun for you to post. And it remains observable fact that claims about the shooter being on the far right, are the domain of wing nuts. Mainstream lefties meanwhile are engaged in simple avoidance.

    Education is extremely important.

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      #17

      There’s no prompt and I don’t believe it’s personal to me in any way. You just go to the search tab in Twitter and the algorithm summarizes ‘today’s news’. Of course it’s different now. It’s been 12 hours.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        #18

        I see. This morning it says "leftist gunman". Indicating something obvious and banal about reality, rather than anything about messaging spin.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • MikM Away
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          #19

          My leftist brother has been strangely silent these past few days. It is my hope that the tsunami of anti-Trump, anti-conservative, anti-GOP posts that have characterized his social media presence have given him pause to consider his role in fomenting the hate that led to this.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            #20

            I’m curious as to what, if any, common patterns or parallels can be drawn between Robinson with Crooks and Mangione. All three under thirty males (that is why I leave out the much older Routh) of documented above average intelligence and coming from seemingly good family backgrounds and no (known) prior criminal acts. Was there a common but, as yet, unrecognised, pathology at play? Or was it simply a matter of failing prey to the extremist and banal populism that leads to amoral and nihilistic thinking and, in these three instances, an immoral criminal act with tragic consequences? I don’t know.

            Elbows up!

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              #21

              There’s some spin going on in right wing circles with folks trying to use Kirk as a weapon in the pro- v anti-Israel debate.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                The left is also providing some credible reports that Kirk was wavering on Israel. It's not entirely unimaginable that Kirk was wavering on Israel. Lots of people are, who used to give them full-throated support.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • MikM Away
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                  Especially with this latest push to occupy Gaza.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    #24

                    Not certain that people are wavering on Israel so much as relinquishing their earlier support of Netanyahu and his governing coalition in dealing with the Palestinian question in Gaza and the West Bank.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Fair point

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        This seems ill advised.

                        The people who believe Israel had a role aren’t going to be persuaded by Bibi denying it. All this does is plant the idea in people’s heads who otherwise might not follow the fringes of magastan.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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