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RBG has passed away

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  • L LuFins Dad
    19 Sept 2020, 12:25

    Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

    Senate elections have consequences.

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    89th
    wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 19:49 last edited by
    #50

    @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

    Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

    Senate elections have consequences.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/history-is-on-the-side-of-republicans-filling-a-supreme-court-vacancy-in-2020/

    Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 19:52 last edited by
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      If it was a Dem held Senate in 2016, what would have been the results?

      The Brad

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        89th
        wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 19:52 last edited by
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        Or Biden/Dem Senate in 2024? Mark my words... 🙂

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          19 Sept 2020, 19:49

          @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

          Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

          Senate elections have consequences.

          https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/history-is-on-the-side-of-republicans-filling-a-supreme-court-vacancy-in-2020/

          Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it

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          George K
          wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 20:15 last edited by
          #53

          @89th said in RBG has passed away:

          @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

          Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

          Senate elections have consequences.

          https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/history-is-on-the-side-of-republicans-filling-a-supreme-court-vacancy-in-2020/

          Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it

          Good article indeed, and when you consider it was written 6 weeks ago it seems prescient.

          Someone commented, referring to RBG’s alleged dying wish about delaying the nomination and vote that, if she were that concerned about the nomination, she should have stepped down when Obama was president.

          But we all knew that Clinton was going to win, didn’t we?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 20:38 last edited by
            #54

            Susan Collins a hard nope.

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            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Horace
              wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 21:12 last edited by
              #55

              Nominating SCOTUS judges is one area where even you jon concede that Trump is not necessarily terrible compared to the other side.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • G George K
                19 Sept 2020, 20:15

                @89th said in RBG has passed away:

                @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

                Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

                Senate elections have consequences.

                https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/history-is-on-the-side-of-republicans-filling-a-supreme-court-vacancy-in-2020/

                Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it

                Good article indeed, and when you consider it was written 6 weeks ago it seems prescient.

                Someone commented, referring to RBG’s alleged dying wish about delaying the nomination and vote that, if she were that concerned about the nomination, she should have stepped down when Obama was president.

                But we all knew that Clinton was going to win, didn’t we?

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                Mik
                wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 21:28 last edited by
                #56

                @George-K said in RBG has passed away:

                @89th said in RBG has passed away:

                @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

                Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

                Senate elections have consequences.

                https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/history-is-on-the-side-of-republicans-filling-a-supreme-court-vacancy-in-2020/

                Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it

                Good article indeed, and when you consider it was written 6 weeks ago it seems prescient.

                Someone commented, referring to RBG’s alleged dying wish about delaying the nomination and vote that, if she were that concerned about the nomination, she should have stepped down when Obama was president.

                But we all knew that Clinton was going to win, didn’t we?

                She has my respect, but that respect does not encompass dying wishes for how government shoud proceed.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • M Mik
                  19 Sept 2020, 21:28

                  @George-K said in RBG has passed away:

                  @89th said in RBG has passed away:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

                  Yeah, all the excuses in 2016 were ill conceived and regrettable. They should have just said “we have the power to block any appointment and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”Today they should say”we have the power to appoint a nominee and we are going to use that power in the interest of those voters that elected us.”

                  Senate elections have consequences.

                  https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/history-is-on-the-side-of-republicans-filling-a-supreme-court-vacancy-in-2020/

                  Very wonky article but has a lot of history and facts behind it

                  Good article indeed, and when you consider it was written 6 weeks ago it seems prescient.

                  Someone commented, referring to RBG’s alleged dying wish about delaying the nomination and vote that, if she were that concerned about the nomination, she should have stepped down when Obama was president.

                  But we all knew that Clinton was going to win, didn’t we?

                  She has my respect, but that respect does not encompass dying wishes for how government shoud proceed.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 21:31 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in RBG has passed away:

                  She has my respect, but that respect does not encompass dying wishes for how government shoud proceed.

                  As I said earlier, and as I said when Trump was running for President, her interjection of her personal opinions into politics cost her a lot of respect points in my book.

                  A jurist should respect the law and constitution, as written. To say that you're thinking about leaving the country if OrangeMan wins, in one statement, undermined any credibility she had.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 22:00 last edited by
                    #58

                    Yeah but TDS is the universal ethical solvent.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • H Horace
                      19 Sept 2020, 22:00

                      Yeah but TDS is the universal ethical solvent.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 22:01 last edited by
                      #59

                      @Horace said in RBG has passed away:

                      ethical solvent

                      Never heard that term. It's perfect.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Loki
                        wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 22:05 last edited by
                        #60

                        The country is about to decide which path it wants to take. Packing the court 6-3 prior the election would seem surreal if Trump is slaughtered election night.

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                        • G George K
                          19 Sept 2020, 22:01

                          @Horace said in RBG has passed away:

                          ethical solvent

                          Never heard that term. It's perfect.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 22:25 last edited by
                          #61

                          @George-K said in RBG has passed away:

                          @Horace said in RBG has passed away:

                          ethical solvent

                          Never heard that term. It's perfect.

                          Thanks George I was fond of it myself. Coinage that post.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 22:46 last edited by
                            #62

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              19 Sept 2020, 22:46

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 23:02 last edited by
                              #63

                              @George-K said in RBG has passed away:

                              Those gushing over the hypocrisy card will soon discover that Biden is already on record as strongly opposing packing the court.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 23:08 last edited by
                                #64

                                where does court packing end? Is there an upper limit in the constitution? I should google it.

                                Education is extremely important.

                                G 1 Reply Last reply 19 Sept 2020, 23:13
                                • H Horace
                                  19 Sept 2020, 23:08

                                  where does court packing end? Is there an upper limit in the constitution? I should google it.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 23:13 last edited by
                                  #65

                                  @Horace said in RBG has passed away:

                                  Is there an upper limit in the constitution?

                                  There is not.

                                  I suggest 350MM members.

                                  Democracy, FTW!

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • L Loki
                                    19 Sept 2020, 23:02

                                    @George-K said in RBG has passed away:

                                    Those gushing over the hypocrisy card will soon discover that Biden is already on record as strongly opposing packing the court.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 23:38 last edited by
                                    #66

                                    @Loki said in RBG has passed away:

                                    @George-K said in RBG has passed away:

                                    Those gushing over the hypocrisy card will soon discover that Biden is already on record as strongly opposing packing the court.

                                    This is the guy who just lost his Senate primary, isn't he?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • G George K
                                      19 Sept 2020, 23:13

                                      @Horace said in RBG has passed away:

                                      Is there an upper limit in the constitution?

                                      There is not.

                                      I suggest 350MM members.

                                      Democracy, FTW!

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 19 Sept 2020, 23:48 last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in RBG has passed away:

                                      @Horace said in RBG has passed away:

                                      Is there an upper limit in the constitution?

                                      There is not.

                                      I suggest 350MM members.

                                      Democracy, FTW!

                                      [tangent] Before the Internet access is ubiquitous, there were logistical arguments to favor representative democracy over direct democracy; now it's down to our own shortcomings. [/tangent]

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 00:28 last edited by Copper
                                        #68

                                        You want to nominate judges? Win the election - you get 4 years to nominate them - not 3.5 years, 4 years.

                                        You want to block the nominations? Control the senate.

                                        It's not that complicated.

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                                        • G George K
                                          19 Sept 2020, 22:46

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 20 Sept 2020, 00:29 last edited by Copper
                                          #69

                                          @George-K said in RBG has passed away:

                                          So if he doesn't hold a vote, then you won't attempt to pack the court.

                                          Is that it?

                                          You want to put that in writing?

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