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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #104

    Yes. there are no winners here.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      One is reminded of Solzhenitsyn’s line from Gulag Archipelago that Jordan Peterson loves to quote - the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties, but right through every human heart.

      AxtremusA Offline
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      #105

      @jon-nyc said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

      One is reminded of Solzhenitsyn’s line from Gulag Archipelago that Jordan Peterson loves to quote - the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties, but right through every human heart.

      So, he's saying it's subjective or arbitrary?

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @jon-nyc said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

        One is reminded of Solzhenitsyn’s line from Gulag Archipelago that Jordan Peterson loves to quote - the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties, but right through every human heart.

        So, he's saying it's subjective or arbitrary?

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #106

        @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

        @jon-nyc said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

        One is reminded of Solzhenitsyn’s line from Gulag Archipelago that Jordan Peterson loves to quote - the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties, but right through every human heart.

        So, he's saying it's subjective or arbitrary?

        Not even close.

        The Brad

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          #107

          Eh ... "every human heart" seems pretty subjective, pretty arbitrary.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            Eh ... "every human heart" seems pretty subjective, pretty arbitrary.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
            #108

            @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

            Eh ... "every human heart" seems pretty subjective, pretty arbitrary.

            Every? Nothing subjective there. 100%. Each and every single one. Nothing arbitrary, that is an absolute.

            The Brad

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            • MikM Offline
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              #109

              Yeah, I agree. Not subjective and, I believe, quite true if we want to be honest with ourselves. I know I’ve done things that could be construed as evil.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                #110

                lol

                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                  Eh ... "every human heart" seems pretty subjective, pretty arbitrary.

                  Every? Nothing subjective there. 100%. Each and every single one. Nothing arbitrary, that is an absolute.

                  AxtremusA Offline
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                  #111

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                  @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                  Eh ... "every human heart" seems pretty subjective, pretty arbitrary.

                  Every? Nothing subjective there. 100%. Each and every single one. Nothing arbitrary, that is an absolute.

                  How is it not subjective or arbitrary when different human hearts decide differently on whether something is good or evil? Heck, even the same human heart can decide differently on whether the same thing is good or evil at different times.

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                    @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                    Eh ... "every human heart" seems pretty subjective, pretty arbitrary.

                    Every? Nothing subjective there. 100%. Each and every single one. Nothing arbitrary, that is an absolute.

                    How is it not subjective or arbitrary when different human hearts decide differently on whether something is good or evil? Heck, even the same human heart can decide differently on whether the same thing is good or evil at different times.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #112

                    @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                    @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                    Eh ... "every human heart" seems pretty subjective, pretty arbitrary.

                    Every? Nothing subjective there. 100%. Each and every single one. Nothing arbitrary, that is an absolute.

                    How is it not subjective or arbitrary when different human hearts decide differently on whether something is good or evil? Heck, even the same human heart can decide differently on whether the same thing is good or evil at different times.

                    But it’s not subjective that every human heart draws that line. And it’s also not subjective that every human has crossed that line in their own hearts in both directions.

                    The Brad

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      #113

                      Truth.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                        @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                        Eh ... "every human heart" seems pretty subjective, pretty arbitrary.

                        Every? Nothing subjective there. 100%. Each and every single one. Nothing arbitrary, that is an absolute.

                        How is it not subjective or arbitrary when different human hearts decide differently on whether something is good or evil? Heck, even the same human heart can decide differently on whether the same thing is good or evil at different times.

                        But it’s not subjective that every human heart draws that line. And it’s also not subjective that every human has crossed that line in their own hearts in both directions.

                        AxtremusA Offline
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                        But it’s not subjective that every human heart draws that line.

                        Subjective or not, the statement above is likely false -- e.g., one can easily argues that a human in deep coma or with insufficient neurological development draw no line.

                        And it’s also not subjective that every human has crossed that line in their own hearts in both directions.

                        Yet many, if not every, draws that line subjectively/arbitrarily.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                          But it’s not subjective that every human heart draws that line.

                          Subjective or not, the statement above is likely false -- e.g., one can easily argues that a human in deep coma or with insufficient neurological development draw no line.

                          And it’s also not subjective that every human has crossed that line in their own hearts in both directions.

                          Yet many, if not every, draws that line subjectively/arbitrarily.

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @Axtremus said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                          But it’s not subjective that every human heart draws that line.

                          Subjective or not, the statement above is likely false -- e.g., one can easily argues that a human in deep coma or with insufficient neurological development draw no line.

                          And it’s also not subjective that every human has crossed that line in their own hearts in both directions.

                          Yet many, if not every, draws that line subjectively/arbitrarily.

                          I’m bored with this debate, especially when you want to try and play pedantic and semantic games.

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL Offline
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                            Okay, this is taking a weird turn.

                            So it is credibly reported that the roommate that turned over the messages wasn’t just a roommate, it was his partner, who is a Transwoman that is medically transitioning.

                            https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/

                            The Brad

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                              Screenshot 2025-09-23 at 8.44.39 PM.png

                              Charlie Kirk wife at "memorial" service. Almost an entrance more like a wrestle event.

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                                Yeah it was an odd spectacle. Some somber moments, some donation-requesting moments (see the crawl on that screen...donate money and get a wristband), some political moments, some wrestling-level moments.... from a wide angle, I think it was nice to see how many people came out in Charlie's memory, but the "look at me" grifting and acting was inevitable, I suppose.

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                                  #119

                                  Yeah her speech was decent but selling merch at your husband’s funeral is a bit much.

                                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Ridiculous.

                                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                        Her narcissism is on par with Trump.

                                        What a hag.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          There is something wrong with Owens' brain chemistry. She started out nice, I was never a fan or anything but I like the idea of an attractive, black conservative and she filled the bill pretty well. She had a fine bully pulpit on the Daily Wire and a husband straight out of Brideshead Revisited. She probably made a lot of money and could have moved up to bigger and better things--but then little by little she went crazy. Poor girl.

                                          Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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