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Why we need DOGE

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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Yeah, I was about to ask: what has DOGE done that convinces you that DOGE could have prevented corruption like the one reported.

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    • MikM Away
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      Isnt it obvious? Our current oversight is clearly not working.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        Isnt it obvious? Our current oversight is clearly not working.

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        @Mik said in Why we need DOGE:

        Isnt it obvious? Our current oversight is clearly not working.

        Not obvious at all. Just because the current oversight is not working does not mean DOGE will work. I have to see convincing evidence that shows DOGE works, or cogent argument that shows DOGE will work. 🤷

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        • MikM Mik

          Isnt it obvious? Our current oversight is clearly not working.

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          @Mik said in Why we need DOGE:

          Isnt it obvious? Our current oversight is clearly not working.

          I mean, they found out about this guy and he's going to jail, so...

          As a contractor I'm familiar with how strict most COs and COTRs are (the folks in charge of contract awards and execution, sort of), and the hoops you usually have to jump through to see a "sole source" contract come out makes it really hard for the above type of tomfoolery to happen. Perhaps the culture is a bit different in the Navy though, I have no idea.

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          • MikM Away
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            I've posted this here many times. The folks in procurement know how to circumvent the controls in place. For instance, if the purchasing department wants only a given product, they will find something unique about it and put that in the requirements - like only Windex has Ammonia-D - so that only the product they want meets the spec.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Away
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              And sure, they found this guy, but how much was NOT found?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Seems to me this is why we need inspectors general. You know, the ones Trump fired.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                  The idea that DOGE will reduce corruption is pretty funny. The idea that Trump wants to eliminate corruption is beyond funny.

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    He just wants a monopoly on it.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      Neo-Mercantilism.

                      Elbows up!

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