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Why we need DOGE

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    Agreed.

    And not sure DOGE would have an impact. In general each agency should have a watchdog within for waste fraud and abuse, and bribery I guess.

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      Yeah, I was about to ask: what has DOGE done that convinces you that DOGE could have prevented corruption like the one reported.

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      • MikM Away
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        Isnt it obvious? Our current oversight is clearly not working.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • MikM Mik

          Isnt it obvious? Our current oversight is clearly not working.

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          @Mik said in Why we need DOGE:

          Isnt it obvious? Our current oversight is clearly not working.

          Not obvious at all. Just because the current oversight is not working does not mean DOGE will work. I have to see convincing evidence that shows DOGE works, or cogent argument that shows DOGE will work. 🤷

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          • MikM Mik

            Isnt it obvious? Our current oversight is clearly not working.

            89th8 Offline
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            @Mik said in Why we need DOGE:

            Isnt it obvious? Our current oversight is clearly not working.

            I mean, they found out about this guy and he's going to jail, so...

            As a contractor I'm familiar with how strict most COs and COTRs are (the folks in charge of contract awards and execution, sort of), and the hoops you usually have to jump through to see a "sole source" contract come out makes it really hard for the above type of tomfoolery to happen. Perhaps the culture is a bit different in the Navy though, I have no idea.

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            • MikM Away
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              I've posted this here many times. The folks in procurement know how to circumvent the controls in place. For instance, if the purchasing department wants only a given product, they will find something unique about it and put that in the requirements - like only Windex has Ammonia-D - so that only the product they want meets the spec.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              • MikM Away
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                And sure, they found this guy, but how much was NOT found?

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  Seems to me this is why we need inspectors general. You know, the ones Trump fired.

                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    The idea that DOGE will reduce corruption is pretty funny. The idea that Trump wants to eliminate corruption is beyond funny.

                    I was only joking

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      He just wants a monopoly on it.

                      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                        Neo-Mercantilism.

                        Elbows up!

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