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Make Alcatraz Great Again

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    When we were a more serious Nation, in times past, we did not hesitate to lock up the most dangerous criminals, and keep them far away from anyone they could harm. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. No longer will we tolerate these Serial Offenders who spread filth, bloodshed, and mayhem on our streets.

    He makes it sound like we have no federal prisons and he’s about to build the first one.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      If he does go through with this I hope Clint Eastwood is around to cut the tape.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • 89th8 Online
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        I heard Trump asked to hire Sean Connery to show him how to break back into the prison.

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          NobodySock
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          Wait until the local shark population hears about this. They lust over the stories of yore passed down from generations of those silly humans that tried to swim for it to SF. Times were really good back then they say.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            ChatGPT:

            Renovating Alcatraz Island to house prisoners again would be a massive, multiyear undertaking, facing logistical, legal, environmental, and political hurdles. Here’s a rough breakdown:

            Physical Renovation Timeline: 3–5+ years minimum
            • Structural restoration (many buildings are severely deteriorated): 1–2 years
            • Modernization to current prison standards (HVAC, electrical, plumbing, fire safety, ADA compliance): 1–2 years
            • Security infrastructure (cells, surveillance, fencing, control systems): 1 year
            • Transportation infrastructure and staffing logistics: concurrent or 6–12 months

            Total realistic timeline (including approvals): 5–10 years

            Why the extra time?
            • Environmental and historical reviews (Alcatraz is a national park and historic site)
            • Legal challenges (from preservation groups, California state officials, civil rights advocates)
            • Cost estimates would run into hundreds of millions of dollars, with ongoing logistical costs due to its island location

            Summary:

            Even with political will and unlimited funding, reopening Alcatraz as a functioning prison would likely take 5–10 years. Most experts would consider it more symbolic or performative than practical.

            Want a breakdown of estimated renovation costs or reasons why it was closed in the first place?

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              My prediction:

              He’ll start it, the next administration will cancel it, dollars spent, no prisoners housed, and its value as an historic site will be diminished as they’ll gut or even destroy the original buildings.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • 89th8 Online
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                Analogous to much of his antics in DC.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Interview with a still-living Alcatraz alum, Charlie Hopkins, 93:

                    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yep08r9vjo

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Ridiculous idea.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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