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Make Alcatraz Great Again

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #10

    If he does go through with this I hope Clint Eastwood is around to cut the tape.

    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      89th
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      #11

      I heard Trump asked to hire Sean Connery to show him how to break back into the prison.

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      • N Offline
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        NobodySock
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        #12

        Wait until the local shark population hears about this. They lust over the stories of yore passed down from generations of those silly humans that tried to swim for it to SF. Times were really good back then they say.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #13

          ChatGPT:

          Renovating Alcatraz Island to house prisoners again would be a massive, multiyear undertaking, facing logistical, legal, environmental, and political hurdles. Here’s a rough breakdown:

          Physical Renovation Timeline: 3–5+ years minimum
          • Structural restoration (many buildings are severely deteriorated): 1–2 years
          • Modernization to current prison standards (HVAC, electrical, plumbing, fire safety, ADA compliance): 1–2 years
          • Security infrastructure (cells, surveillance, fencing, control systems): 1 year
          • Transportation infrastructure and staffing logistics: concurrent or 6–12 months

          Total realistic timeline (including approvals): 5–10 years

          Why the extra time?
          • Environmental and historical reviews (Alcatraz is a national park and historic site)
          • Legal challenges (from preservation groups, California state officials, civil rights advocates)
          • Cost estimates would run into hundreds of millions of dollars, with ongoing logistical costs due to its island location

          Summary:

          Even with political will and unlimited funding, reopening Alcatraz as a functioning prison would likely take 5–10 years. Most experts would consider it more symbolic or performative than practical.

          Want a breakdown of estimated renovation costs or reasons why it was closed in the first place?

          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #14

            My prediction:

            He’ll start it, the next administration will cancel it, dollars spent, no prisoners housed, and its value as an historic site will be diminished as they’ll gut or even destroy the original buildings.

            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              89th
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              #15

              Analogous to much of his antics in DC.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                #16

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                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  Interview with a still-living Alcatraz alum, Charlie Hopkins, 93:

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yep08r9vjo

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    Ridiculous idea.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                      #19

                      Might be the last time I see it in its original form.

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                      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
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                        God, just leave it alone. It’s fine as a tourist attraction.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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