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Why we need due process

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    My, we weren't worried about due process during The Resident's administration. They scoffed at that. When they did use the courts, it was to inflict excessive punishment on some citizens for misdemeanors, while letting killers walk. Or it was to bring cases to court based on a weaponized Just-us Department. Or it was to engage in lawfare.

    In politics, it's always tit-for-tat. Most of the time, politicians operate under a type of MAD environment, knowing that offices do change political affiliation...I won't screw you over and I won't screw you over. Witness Trump letting Bleachbit/Russia Hoax Hillary walk for the good of the country. And then, all hell broke loose.

    Well, Trump can be taught and he was taught about application of naked political power.

    Y'all enjoy!

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    @Jolly said in Why we need due process:

    My, we weren't worried about due process during The Resident's administration. They scoffed at that. When they did use the courts, it was to inflict excessive punishment on some citizens for misdemeanors, while letting killers walk. Or it was to bring cases to court based on a weaponized Just-us Department. Or it was to engage in lawfare.

    In politics, it's always tit-for-tat. Most of the time, politicians operate under a type of MAD environment, knowing that offices do change political affiliation...I won't screw you over and I won't screw you over. Witness Trump letting Bleachbit/Russia Hoax Hillary walk for the good of the country. And then, all hell broke loose.

    Well, Trump can be taught and he was taught about application of naked political power.

    Y'all enjoy!

    I agree with your point, here, but it really does not apply to this situation. This is about diligence and threatening legitimate citizens is not an appropriate payback for the Biden malfeasance.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      I think it's all part and parcel. It's a general attitude using a heavy-handed wielding of power.

      Obviously, in this case it's a mistake and those things routinely happen in a government as big as ours (not to mention the anti-Trump anything general news reporting).

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        My, we weren't worried about due process during The Resident's administration. They scoffed at that. When they did use the courts, it was to inflict excessive punishment on some citizens for misdemeanors, while letting killers walk. Or it was to bring cases to court based on a weaponized Just-us Department. Or it was to engage in lawfare.

        In politics, it's always tit-for-tat. Most of the time, politicians operate under a type of MAD environment, knowing that offices do change political affiliation...I won't screw you over and I won't screw you over. Witness Trump letting Bleachbit/Russia Hoax Hillary walk for the good of the country. And then, all hell broke loose.

        Well, Trump can be taught and he was taught about application of naked political power.

        Y'all enjoy!

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        @Jolly said in Why we need due process:

        My, we weren't worried about due process during The Resident's administration. They scoffed at that. When they did use the courts, it was to inflict excessive punishment on some citizens for misdemeanors, while letting killers walk. Or it was to bring cases to court based on a weaponized Just-us Department. Or it was to engage in lawfare.

        Five sentences, five lies.

        Keep it up you’ll be the next White House spokesman.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Hi, Jon.

          Fuck you. 🖕

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            lol

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Hi, Jon.

              Fuck you. 🖕

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              @Jolly said in Why we need due process:

              Hi, Jon.

              Fuck you. 🖕

              Lie was a little harsh, since you have been led to believe what you’re saying.

              How about Magtard myths?

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                😂

                Elbows up!

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                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportation-donald-trump-00311631

                    2-year-old U.S. citizen deported with "no meaningful process."

                    2-year-old
                    U.S. citizen

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                      That one’s not as bad as it seems. The mother, non citizen, was deported and wanted to take the kid.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/26/us-citizen-children-deported-ice/

                        4-year-old with Stage 4 cancer who was deported without medication or the ability to contact their doctors

                        4-year-old, Stage 4 cancer, U.S. citizen.

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                          Not anglo saxon with conservative principles. All 4 year olds are liberal. Got to watch them real close.

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                            The modern day head on pike. It shows their priority are headlines "arrested!" and not due process where the person is found guilty by a jury of their peers.

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                              The modern day head on pike. It shows their priority are headlines "arrested!" and not due process where the person is found guilty by a jury of their peers.

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                              @89th said in Why we need due process:

                              It shows their priority are headlines "arrested!"

                              Somebody should put this one up next to them:

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                              I was only joking

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                                Yeah but that was during the lawfare days. Totally unjust.

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                                  The modern day head on pike. It shows their priority are headlines "arrested!" and not due process where the person is found guilty by a jury of their peers.

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                                  @89th said in Why we need due process:

                                  The modern day head on pike. It shows their priority are headlines "arrested!" and not due process where the person is found guilty by a jury of their peers.

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                                  Are those really on the white house lawn?

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                                    Yup

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                                      Well this is another fun interview segment. Love the ending... "so they get due process?", trump says... "well they get A process to get them out". 😄

                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1kbketz/trump_doesnt_think_immigrants_deserve_due_process/

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                                        Love also how he was asked if they'll get a hearing as the law requires, and Trump said "I'll have to ask the lawyers about that".... maybe a question you should've asked BEFORE deporting folks?

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