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El Salvador declines to return Garcia

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    89th
    wrote 22 days ago last edited by 89th
    #46

    So how will this end up?

    A) Nothing, it fades away as a story, he remains in El Jail
    B) He is returned, re-tried, and re-deported
    C) He is killed while in El Salvador, memes later say he had evidence about Clinton and Epstein
    D) He is transferred to another country, like Mexico
    E) He is returned here and is allowed to stay

    I'm guessing C.

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      Jolly
      wrote 22 days ago last edited by
      #47

      A or C.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Horace
        wrote 22 days ago last edited by
        #48

        It's unclear what, if any, fallout is practically possible for the Trump admin failing to adhere to the court order to facilitate his return. That may play a role.

        Education is extremely important.

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          22 days ago

          It's unclear what, if any, fallout is practically possible for the Trump admin failing to adhere to the court order to facilitate his return. That may play a role.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote 22 days ago last edited by
          #49

          @Horace said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

          It's unclear what, if any, fallout is practically possible for the Trump admin failing to adhere to the court order to facilitate his return. That may play a role.

          This. The practical implications from playing stupid games with the court will sink this administration.

          The Brad

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            Jolly
            wrote 21 days ago last edited by
            #50

            https://nypost.com/2025/04/17/us-news/alleged-ms-13-gang-member-kilmar-abrego-garcia-seen-sipping-margaritas-with-sen-van-hollen-amid-el-salvador-deportation-battle-new-photos-reveal/

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Horace
              wrote 21 days ago last edited by
              #51

              So I guess I was wrong when I said the Trump admin did not ask El Salvador to return Garcia. They claim to have asked, and they claim that they would provide a plane, in accordance with the court order. Then, we have the non-sequitur from the El Salvador president about how he would have to smuggle Garcia over the border. The operative decision continues to be the US administration's, but there is more verbal subterfuge and nonsense in the messaging from both countries than I realized.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Jolly
                wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                Give the news cycle another week.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                  #53

                  More about this wonderful “Maryland Father”

                  https://dailycaller.com/2025/04/17/exclusive-department-of-homeland-security-confirms-abrego-garcia-stopped-suspected-human-trafficking/

                  The Brad

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                    #54

                    Don’t get me wrong, he absolutely needs to be brought back. But for our sake, not his.

                    The Brad

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                      89th
                      wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                      #55

                      That's weird he was just given a warning, too.

                      So for actual evidence, his only crime so far is he was loitering while looking for work.

                      But the more likely story is he's MS-13, an abusive husband at times, and likely a trafficker of illegals from Mexico to Maryland.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote 20 days ago last edited by
                        #56

                        True or not? I dont know.

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl
                          20 days ago

                          True or not? I dont know.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote 20 days ago last edited by
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                          @taiwan_girl said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                          True or not? I dont know.

                          This is the stupidest argument ever. The marijuana leaf = M. The smiley with xed eyes = S, the single cross = 1, the skull with the 3 squares is a regular dice model = 3

                          MS13… An agent typed in the letters on the picture relating what each symbol meant. It’s a frigging gang symbol glossary on the picture but people are saying the letters are fake. Yes, they are fucking fake. Barrio -18 doesn’t tattoo that name on their arm using Arial font… FFS

                          The Brad

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                            Horace
                            wrote 20 days ago last edited by
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                            Funny.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Mik
                              wrote 20 days ago last edited by
                              #59

                              All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik
                                20 days ago

                                All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote 20 days ago last edited by
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                                @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                All of which has nothing to do with defying a court order.

                                Absolutely. I don’t disagree. Hell, it never should have gotten to the point of needing a court order to begin with. There was a stay, they accidentally deported him anyway. Fix the problem. Bring him back, get the stay lifted, and deport him.

                                But let’s stop pretending this guy is a great father and a pillar of society.

                                The guy needs to be removed from the country and the administration needs to follow the law in doing so. Both can be true.

                                The Brad

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote 19 days ago last edited by
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                                  I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                                  Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                                  The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote 19 days ago last edited by
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                                    Rogan, getting it said.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • MikM Mik
                                      19 days ago

                                      I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                                      Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                                      The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote 19 days ago last edited by
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                                      @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                      I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                                      Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                                      The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

                                      I’ll g

                                      @Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:

                                      I don't support non-criminals being placed in foreign prisons. If you want to deport an illegal, do so. But not to a prison.

                                      Apparently, Garcia was moved to a better detention facility but still has no access to news or the ability to communicate with anyone outside.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/abrego-garcia-told-visiting-us-senator-he-was-no-longer-being-held-at-notorious-salvadoran-prison/vi-AA1DcBRr

                                      The thing that was brought up regarding the odious prosecutions of Trump is if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. The same principle applies here.

                                      I’ll go one further. I don’t even approve of sending foreign nationals to foreign prisons while they are still under our jurisdiction. They committed a crime? Lock them up, in the US. (Try them first, of course). Then deport or extradite if the other country has cause. The idea of using foreign prisons because they are more of a hellhole than we allow in the US is a complete hell fucking no in my mind, whether they are citizens or not. But if you deport him legally, I don’t really give a flying fig what the El Salvadoran government does with him after he is legally deported.

                                      The Brad

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                                        89th
                                        wrote 18 days ago last edited by
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                                        You and Rogan and others are spitting some common sense and it's baffling we even need to have this commentary, honestly.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote 10 days ago last edited by 89th
                                          #65

                                          Trump actually thinks he had "MS13" on his knuckles. Wow. Stunning, he is surrounded by people who (seemingly) do not tell him anything he doesn't want to hear. I know, we knew that... but the irony is the interviewer is trying to move on and Trump KEEPS DIGGING on something he's clearly wrong about. I'm getting flashbacks of Trump's famous COVID interview with HBO's Jonathan Swan.

                                          Yes click "I'm over 18" there is nothing mature in the video, I just can't find a good clip on youtube yet.

                                          Video:
                                          https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1kb46pd/trump_believes_kilmar_abrego_garcia_had_the/

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