El Salvador declines to return Garcia
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"How can I return him to the United States? Like if I smuggle him into the United States? Of course I'm not going to do it. The question is preposterous," Bukele said when asked if he'd return Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
That is the context of El Salvador "declining to return Garcia". They are saying that, since America officially does not want him back, El Salvador would have to smuggle him back.
One can be worried about America's decision here, but El Salvador declining to smuggle him back to America, where he would be immediately illegal, is a non-story.
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I think you’re right, but he’s doing a lot of damage to his own goals. He can’t win a battle with scotus.
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Both sides are making massive mistakes on this.
The left and anti-Trump folks are trying to lionize this guy and make him out to be something he is not. The guy is almost certainly a bad dude. It’s fairly well established that he’s an MS13 member, has been arrested and suspected of multiple crime before, and had only avoided deportations and jail in the past on technicalities. It’s okay to admit that and not try to paint him as a saintly father while arguing that his due process was ignored.
The MAGA folk need to remember that due process and how we treat the worst of us is the measure for morality in this country. There’s a reason why cops go to jail and guilty criminals go free when the police violate the law in going after them…
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I haven't found any credible evidence that he is MS-13, or of a criminal record of any depth. As far as I can tell someone said he is MS-13 therefore he is.
I have some personal experience with this sort of thing, although I was never deported. In my junior year of high school the detectives came and arrested me in class and about twenty other people solely because someone said on such and such a date they possessed these drugs. No evidence of any sort. i could say Phibes murdered Larry and they'd arrest him. So based on that I have an aversion to this kind of shoddy law enforcement.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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I haven't found any credible evidence that he is MS-13, or of a criminal record of any depth. As far as I can tell someone said he is MS-13 therefore he is.
I have some personal experience with this sort of thing, although I was never deported. In my junior year of high school the detectives came and arrested me in class and about twenty other people solely because someone said on such and such a date they possessed these drugs. No evidence of any sort. i could say Phibes murdered Larry and they'd arrest him. So based on that I have an aversion to this kind of shoddy law enforcement.
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I haven't found any credible evidence that he is MS-13, or of a criminal record of any depth. As far as I can tell someone said he is MS-13 therefore he is.
I have some personal experience with this sort of thing, although I was never deported. In my junior year of high school the detectives came and arrested me in class and about twenty other people solely because someone said on such and such a date they possessed these drugs. No evidence of any sort. i could say Phibes murdered Larry and they'd arrest him. So based on that I have an aversion to this kind of shoddy law enforcement.
@Mik said in El Salvador declines to return Garcia:
I haven't found any credible evidence that he is MS-13, or of a criminal record of any depth. As far as I can tell someone said he is MS-13 therefore he is.
I have some personal experience with this sort of thing, although I was never deported. In my junior year of high school the detectives came and arrested me in class and about twenty other people solely because someone said on such and such a date they possessed these drugs. No evidence of any sort. i could say Phibes murdered Larry and they'd arrest him. So based on that I have an aversion to this kind of shoddy law enforcement.
It's certainly interesting to contrast this situation with how the Tate brothers were treated.
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Go piss up a rope.
The U.S. government has NO power to demand a citizen of a foreign nation be returned to the U.S., unless it is for a crime and there exists an extradition treaty between the two countries, assuming both countries honor the treaty.
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The claim that this guy would be immediately illegal if returned to the US, and that therefore El Salvador would have to smuggle him in, is either factual or non-factual. I don't think it's a matter of opinion, nor a matter of carrying water for Trump. Maybe it's non-factual, but my understanding is that it's factual.
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El Prez is absolutely just doing whatever Trump asks to stay in good favor. This was an illegal immigrant who had no criminal history (and SCOTUS decided 0-9 against Trump...despite their claim of winning 9-0, how funny no one fact checked him on that), and no evidence he was a member of MS-13... in fact, he was ordered by a judge NOT TO BE FORCED BACK TO EL SALVADOR specifically BECAUSE of MS-13 wanting him dead.
What a weird situation, but I'd have to imagine it results ultimately in this guy coming back to the USA or at least sent to another country. I feel bad for his wife and 3 kids (he married and had kids after an American judge ordered that he is not allowed to be sent back to El Salvador given the threat to his life).
