Trump’s indoor rally
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@Jolly said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s indoor rally:
People who don't wear masks at public gatherings aren't rebels. It's other people they're putting at risk. The word isn't rebel, it's asshole.
And in America, you can be an asshole, as long as you don't trample on someone else's right.
The fact that you have the legal right to do something doesn't make it OK.
I've noticed that people use the US Constitution a lot to defend being a knobhead. Sure, they're not breaking the law, but they're still a knobhead
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@89th said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:
... people who complain that their "rights are being taken away" ...
I bet most of these anti-maskers wear seat belts when they drive, without complaining.
I suspect most of the people who don't wear masks believe that the protection offered by the mask isn't worth mentioning.
I know, I know, cnn screams all day long about the magical qualities of the mask. How could they not believe?
The sad part is that if cnn became anti-mask, a lot of these people would probably wear one.
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Ah, OK, I missed that.
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President Trump on Howard Stern show
Trump: “My daughter is beautiful, Ivanka."
Stern: “By the way, your daughter…”
Trump: “ - she’s beautiful"
Stern: “Can I say this? A piece of ass.”
Trump: “Yeah.”On The View, 2006
Donald and Ivanka appeared together on The View while promoting Season Three of The Apprentice, in which Mr Trump’s children featured for the first time as his advisors.
When asked how he would react if Ivanka, a former teen model, posed for Playboy, Trump replied, "It would be really disappointing — not really."
He added: "I don't think Ivanka would do that, although she does have a very nice figure. I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her."
On the Dr Oz show, September 2016
The Republican was discussing long-awaited details about his health, and was joined on stage for the pre-record by Ivanka. After they kissed, the host commented: “It’s nice to see a dad kiss his daughter.”
According to several studio witnesses, Mr Trump replied that he kisses Ivanka “with every chance [he] gets”. The comment was apparently edited out of the final cut of the show when it went to air.
So our choice of President is between two creepy old men? LOL
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@Larry said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@89th said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@Larry said in Trump’s indoor rally:
Are you aware that Trump had THREE DIFFERENT OUTDOOR VENUES selected but the democrat governor of the state REFUSED to approve ANY of them, and the reason they were in an indoor facility in the first place was because the democrat governor forced them to have no other choice?
As far as I can tell, this is FAKE NEWS, you should be ashamed of spreading it, unless you can provide evidence that Sisolak "refused to approve...and forced the rally indoors".
- The governor doesn't "approve" the venues
- The governor had nothing to do with those outdoor venues "canceling"
- The outdoor venues "canceled" (did not host) the outdoor events because of the existing mandate against groups with more than 50 people gathering
- The indoor venue at which the Monday event was held, ended up being fined $3,000 for violating the current state mandates
On the flip side, I think it's absolutely ridiculous these events are not allowed and fined when its a political rally, but it's OK when it's a BLM protest.
It's not fake news:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/14/us/politics/trump-rally.html
"The decision to hold a rally indoors, officials said, was something of a last resort for a campaign that had tried to procure five different outdoor locations. A Trump campaign official said they all faced pressure from state officials not to host the rally."
Yeah, like I said. All of my points are valid, and your claim that the governor "refused to approve outdoor venues" is false, and fake news. His office had "no involvement or communication with the event organizers or potential hosts regarding the proposed campaign events advertised by the Trump campaign".
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@89th said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@Larry said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@89th said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@Larry said in Trump’s indoor rally:
Are you aware that Trump had THREE DIFFERENT OUTDOOR VENUES selected but the democrat governor of the state REFUSED to approve ANY of them, and the reason they were in an indoor facility in the first place was because the democrat governor forced them to have no other choice?
As far as I can tell, this is FAKE NEWS, you should be ashamed of spreading it, unless you can provide evidence that Sisolak "refused to approve...and forced the rally indoors".
- The governor doesn't "approve" the venues
- The governor had nothing to do with those outdoor venues "canceling"
- The outdoor venues "canceled" (did not host) the outdoor events because of the existing mandate against groups with more than 50 people gathering
- The indoor venue at which the Monday event was held, ended up being fined $3,000 for violating the current state mandates
On the flip side, I think it's absolutely ridiculous these events are not allowed and fined when its a political rally, but it's OK when it's a BLM protest.
It's not fake news:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/14/us/politics/trump-rally.html
"The decision to hold a rally indoors, officials said, was something of a last resort for a campaign that had tried to procure five different outdoor locations. A Trump campaign official said they all faced pressure from state officials not to host the rally."
Yeah, like I said. All of my points are valid, and your claim that the governor "refused to approve outdoor venues" is false, and fake news. His office had "no involvement or communication with the event organizers or potential hosts regarding the proposed campaign events advertised by the Trump campaign".
Is the governor a state official? He is???? Then since it was state officials that stopped the Trump campaign from being able to have access to an outdoor venue, the only fake news here is you playing semantics. Since I refuse to believe you're that stupid, I can only assume that you know better.
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This is why you wear masks
7 COVID deaths linked to Maine wedding and the seven who died DID NOT EVEN ATTEND THE WEDDING!!
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:
This is why you wear masks
7 COVID deaths linked to Maine wedding and the seven who died DID NOT EVEN ATTEND THE WEDDING!!
And masks may not have prevented a single death.
A cloth mask is not a panacea or wonder weapon against the corona virus. If so, there wouldn't have been a single case in China after mandatory masking. They do help slow the spread of the disease, as do other measures, such as hand-washing and social distancing.
The people at the wedding made a conscious decision about wearing masks. They probably made the wrong decision.
But, it was their decision to make...
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@Jolly said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:
This is why you wear masks
7 COVID deaths linked to Maine wedding and the seven who died DID NOT EVEN ATTEND THE WEDDING!!
And masks may not have prevented a single death.
A cloth mask is not a panacea or wonder weapon against the corona virus. If so, there wouldn't have been a single case in China after mandatory masking. They do help slow the spread of the disease, as do other measures, such as hand-washing and social distancing.
The people at the wedding made a conscious decision about wearing masks. They probably made the wrong decision.
But, it was their decision to make...
Sorry Jolly, but I disagree. The people who dies were not at the wedding. They didn't have a choice.
Would you be okay if someone decided to drive through a school zone at 100 kph at the time school lets out? Is it okay to drink and drive?
I do believe that sometimes the rights/impact of society in total are more important than the rights of an single individual.
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@Jolly said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:
This is why you wear masks
7 COVID deaths linked to Maine wedding and the seven who died DID NOT EVEN ATTEND THE WEDDING!!
And masks may not have prevented a single death.
A cloth mask is not a panacea or wonder weapon against the corona virus. If so, there wouldn't have been a single case in China after mandatory masking. They do help slow the spread of the disease, as do other measures, such as hand-washing and social distancing.
The people at the wedding made a conscious decision about wearing masks. They probably made the wrong decision.
But, it was their decision to make...
Sorry Jolly, but I disagree. The people who dies were not at the wedding. They didn't have a choice.
Would you be okay if someone decided to drive through a school zone at 100 kph at the time school lets out? Is it okay to drink and drive?
I do believe that sometimes the rights/impact of society in total are more important than the rights of an single individual.
So did the Soviets.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
Warning: I post things that interest me. Read and comment at your own discretion. -
@Jolly said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@Jolly said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:
This is why you wear masks
7 COVID deaths linked to Maine wedding and the seven who died DID NOT EVEN ATTEND THE WEDDING!!
And masks may not have prevented a single death.
A cloth mask is not a panacea or wonder weapon against the corona virus. If so, there wouldn't have been a single case in China after mandatory masking. They do help slow the spread of the disease, as do other measures, such as hand-washing and social distancing.
The people at the wedding made a conscious decision about wearing masks. They probably made the wrong decision.
But, it was their decision to make...
Sorry Jolly, but I disagree. The people who dies were not at the wedding. They didn't have a choice.
Would you be okay if someone decided to drive through a school zone at 100 kph at the time school lets out? Is it okay to drink and drive?
I do believe that sometimes the rights/impact of society in total are more important than the rights of an single individual.
So did the Soviets.
So does everybody. It's what living within a society means.
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@Jolly said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@Jolly said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:
This is why you wear masks
7 COVID deaths linked to Maine wedding and the seven who died DID NOT EVEN ATTEND THE WEDDING!!
And masks may not have prevented a single death.
A cloth mask is not a panacea or wonder weapon against the corona virus. If so, there wouldn't have been a single case in China after mandatory masking. They do help slow the spread of the disease, as do other measures, such as hand-washing and social distancing.
The people at the wedding made a conscious decision about wearing masks. They probably made the wrong decision.
But, it was their decision to make...
Sorry Jolly, but I disagree. The people who dies were not at the wedding. They didn't have a choice.
Would you be okay if someone decided to drive through a school zone at 100 kph at the time school lets out? Is it okay to drink and drive?
I do believe that sometimes the rights/impact of society in total are more important than the rights of an single individual.
So did the Soviets.
So does everybody. It's what living within a society means.
Sorry, but Americans are not subjects, we are citizens. There is a difference. Sometimes, it's a very messy difference.
Individual rights should mostly trump the rights of the State. Sometimes, that can lead to bad consequences for the individual.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@Jolly so you support the rioters that are destroying building and stuff in the cities?
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump’s indoor rally:
@Jolly so you support the rioters that are destroying building and stuff in the cities?
TG, please don't turn into Ax.
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You can never prove whether a specific mask prevented or failed to prevent anything.
That makes it a terrific topic for tncr.
There is no need to worry about either argument being killed by facts.
Percentages, tendencies, likelihoods, sure. Specific outcomes? No.
