The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:
@Horace said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:
The oppositional echo chamber appears to be overestimating the dishonesty of the talking points.
If it's as minor a transgression as you say, it's a little odd that the Trump brigade has used such over-the-top language to describe the journalist they themselves invited to the meeting.
He's been called a 'loser', 'scum', 'sleazebag' and even the extremely witty 'Goldshit'.
I'm still at a bit of a loss to see what he did that was so wrong.
Maybe one of The Faithful can explain it to me using their words.
You may not have any interest in following their talking points, but they are not accusing this journalist of doing anything wrong specifically in this case. His history of motivated journalism is real, and they are going back to that history to call him names etc, but that's misdirection rather than explicit dishonesty. If anybody wants to get precious about those sorts of political word games, ok, but nobody will take it seriously.
wrote on 27 Mar 2025, 14:34 last edited by@Horace said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:
You may not have any interest in following their talking points, but they are not accusing this journalist of doing anything wrong specifically in this case. His history of motivated journalism is real, and they are going back to that history to call him names etc, but that's misdirection rather than explicit dishonesty. If anybody wants to get precious about those sorts of political word games, ok, but nobody will take it seriously.
It's fairly obvious that they fucked up royally, and they're trying to mis-direct people who are so gullible that they think this doesn't matter. It's also clear that they were very lucky they didn't say anything that could have been really damaging in their texts and that they didn't invite somebody who was a lot more cynical than this journalist turned out to be.
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wrote on 27 Mar 2025, 14:35 last edited by
Lock them up!
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@Horace said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:
You may not have any interest in following their talking points, but they are not accusing this journalist of doing anything wrong specifically in this case. His history of motivated journalism is real, and they are going back to that history to call him names etc, but that's misdirection rather than explicit dishonesty. If anybody wants to get precious about those sorts of political word games, ok, but nobody will take it seriously.
It's fairly obvious that they fucked up royally, and they're trying to mis-direct people who are so gullible that they think this doesn't matter. It's also clear that they were very lucky they didn't say anything that could have been really damaging in their texts and that they didn't invite somebody who was a lot more cynical than this journalist turned out to be.
wrote on 27 Mar 2025, 15:11 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:
@Horace said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:
You may not have any interest in following their talking points, but they are not accusing this journalist of doing anything wrong specifically in this case. His history of motivated journalism is real, and they are going back to that history to call him names etc, but that's misdirection rather than explicit dishonesty. If anybody wants to get precious about those sorts of political word games, ok, but nobody will take it seriously.
It's fairly obvious that they fucked up royally, and they're trying to mis-direct people who are so gullible that they think this doesn't matter.
It's political spin. Maybe there is some gullibility involved in convincing the oppositional tribe that this time, political spin is a huge deal that we should care about hugely.
The mistake has been admitted to, and of course they won't be using language to describe the mistake that resonates with you. I'm sure the Biden administration didn't use words to describe the Afghanistan withdrawal fiasco that resonated with his opposition, either. But they probably admitted that it was a sub-optimal military action.
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wrote on 27 Mar 2025, 16:26 last edited by LuFins Dad
It was obviously an egregious fuck up. Let’s acknowledge that and be thankful that there were no serious repercussions to the operation, and hopefully valuable lessons were learned for the individuals going forward. So what do we expect to see going forward?
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Firings/resignations and possible prosecutions?
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An earnest and well intentioned apology from those involved that is well received from the press and those on both sides of the political aisle?
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Continual denials and CYA statements from those involved while members of the press and opposition party snipe about this to the exclusion of everything else until some new bright and shiny story catches our attention?
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wrote on 27 Mar 2025, 16:29 last edited by
I wonder if it was something as stupid as them accidentally having Airdrop near each other and Goldberg was added to his contacts?
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wrote on 27 Mar 2025, 21:08 last edited by
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wrote on 27 Mar 2025, 22:57 last edited by
Story here
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 00:03 last edited by
Please… Now the left is going apeshit about protecting Israeli intelligence because of a colossal blunder while 6 months ago the Biden administration was purposely leaking Israeli plans?
Fuckups happen but what Biden and co did was intentional.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 00:31 last edited by
What is Geroge's line? When they fuck up our reaction is the story?
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 03:10 last edited by
Second time you've mentioned George in two days.
Interesting...
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 10:57 last edited by
From Hillary Clinton:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/28/opinion/trump-hegseth-signal-chat.html
This is just dumb.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 12:03 last edited by
Military pilots:
Worse, they [military pilots] said, is that going forward, they can no longer be certain that the Pentagon is focused on their safety when they strap into cockpits.
“The whole point about aviation safety is that you have to have the humility to understand that you are imperfect, because everybody screws up. Everybody makes mistakes,” said Lt. John Gadzinski, a retired Navy F-14 pilot who flew combat missions from aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. “But ultimately, if you can’t admit when you’re wrong, you’re going to kill somebody because your ego is too big.”
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 12:33 last edited by
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 13:12 last edited by
Similar to the convo my neighbor and I had last night.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 17:54 last edited by
@Jolly said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:
Second time you've mentioned George in two days.
Interesting...
And you only mentioned him once.
Interesting….
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 18:01 last edited by
I believe that I've mentioned Hitler more often than I've mentioned George, and Horace has spoken about his neighbour.
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wrote on 2 Apr 2025, 01:59 last edited by
@Axtremus said in The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Their War Plans:
Gmail ...
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/01/mike-waltz-signal-gmail-security
Much ado about nothing.
