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A Mess Of His Own Making

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    I agree the Trump Administration is agressive. But the system is broken.

    A. Roberts missed his chance to make the district judges engage in appropriate jurisprudence. It is time to restore their rightful place in the judiciary ladder vs. other branches of government.
    B. Again, the answer is to create a process where legalities are reviewed by a three judge panel at the appellate level and fast-tracked to SCOTUS as warranted.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      This really seems tedious for those of us whose memory goes all the way back to 2021-2024 and remember maga taking every case they could to a particular Texas federal judge seeking nationwide injunctions.

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      @jon-nyc said in A Mess Of His Own Making:

      This really seems tedious for those of us whose memory goes all the way back to 2021-2024 and remember maga taking every case they could to a particular Texas federal judge seeking nationwide injunctions.

      When the judicial system remains the same but your Presidential preference changes:

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        I agree the Trump Administration is agressive. But the system is broken.

        A. Roberts missed his chance to make the district judges engage in appropriate jurisprudence. It is time to restore their rightful place in the judiciary ladder vs. other branches of government.
        B. Again, the answer is to create a process where legalities are reviewed by a three judge panel at the appellate level and fast-tracked to SCOTUS as warranted.

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        @Jolly said in A Mess Of His Own Making:

        I agree the Trump Administration is agressive. But the system is broken.

        A. Roberts missed his chance to make the district judges engage in appropriate jurisprudence. It is time to restore their rightful place in the judiciary ladder vs. other branches of government.
        B. Again, the answer is to create a process where legalities are reviewed by a three judge panel at the appellate level and fast-tracked to SCOTUS as warranted.

        In general, those are good ideas. I wouldn't say the system is broken at all, but there's always room for some improvement. The system is broken if the executive branch doesn't adhere to the judicial branch's role to check/balance the other two branches.

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          The system is broken if the judiciary is the preeminent branch of government.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Did something novel happen in this case? Or is this how it’s always worked?

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            • X xenon

              Did something novel happen in this case? Or is this how it’s always worked?

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              @xenon said in A Mess Of His Own Making:

              Did something novel happen in this case? Or is this how it’s always worked?

              As of now, Trump should hit an interesting mark this summer. He will have more nationwide injunctions imposed by lower courts, than all other Presidents combined.

              That's pretty novel.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Great, and we’ll see what happens as they make their way up the chain. That’s not a broken system, that’s the way it’s supposed to work. And while I don’t give a damn what happens to these gangster thugs, I do give a damn about accidental deportations and sending somebody to these El Salvador prisons. That’s a big fucking deal, and it’s worth delaying and allowing SOME jurisprudence at her than accidentally and wrongly sending somebody to one of those hellhole prisons…

                The Brad

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                  And it’s absolutely correct and proper for Roberts to defend and represent the Judicial Branch above and beyond partisan politics.

                  The Brad

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                    Interesting 🤔

                    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5205259-hawley-curbing-judicial-authority/

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2025/03/21/john_roberts_is_responsible_for_the_high_courts_self-delegitimization_152535.html

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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