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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    Burning cars is terrorism?

    So says Pam Bondi.

    I thought there had to be actual violence, not just property damage.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Is burning a cross on a lawn terrorism?

      The Brad

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      • MikM Offline
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        I would consider blowing cars up to be violent. Certainly has the potential for human injury.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Teslas can’t really explore, can they? Just burn at extremely high temperatures.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Is burning a cross on a lawn terrorism?

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Terrorism?:

            Is burning a cross on a lawn terrorism?

            It might be, but burning a dumpster isn’t. The cross burning medium is its own message in a way that car and dumpster burning isn’t.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Maybe if they blew up a power station...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @LuFins-Dad said in Terrorism?:

                Is burning a cross on a lawn terrorism?

                It might be, but burning a dumpster isn’t. The cross burning medium is its own message in a way that car and dumpster burning isn’t.

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                @jon-nyc said in Terrorism?:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Terrorism?:

                Is burning a cross on a lawn terrorism?

                It might be, but burning a dumpster isn’t. The cross burning medium is its own message in a way that car and dumpster burning isn’t.

                Lighting a Tesla on fire isn’t a message?

                The Brad

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                  And last I checked, arson is a violent crime.

                  The Brad

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                    #9

                    Is burning a flag terrorism? If it’s not your flag?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      Is burning down a car dealership in protest of the goverment's actions terrorism?

                      ChatGPT:

                      Yes, burning down a car dealership in protest could be considered an act of terrorism, depending on the legal definition used.

                      Why It Could Be Considered Terrorism:
                      1. Use of Violence or Destruction – Deliberately setting fire to property is an act of violence and destruction.
                      2. Political Motivation – If the intent is to influence government policy or intimidate officials, it aligns with definitions of terrorism.
                      3. Risk to Public Safety – Arson is dangerous, potentially harming innocent people, firefighters, or spreading beyond the intended target.

                      Legal Perspective:
                      • In the U.S., the FBI defines domestic terrorism as acts that endanger human life and are intended to coerce or intimidate for political or social purposes.
                      • In other countries, the definition varies, but violent acts against property for political reasons often fall under terrorism or criminal arson.

                      When It Might Not Be Labeled as Terrorism:
                      • If it is considered vandalism, arson, or civil disobedience without an intent to intimidate or coerce.
                      • If authorities classify it as criminal mischief rather than an act of political violence.

                      Would you like more information on specific legal definitions of terrorism?**

                      Yes, Give me the legal cites for that.

                      Chat GPT:

                      Here are some legal citations related to terrorism and arson in the U.S.:

                      1. Federal Definition of Terrorism
                        • 18 U.S.C. § 2331 – Defines domestic terrorism as acts that:
                        • Involve dangerous acts to human life that violate criminal laws.
                        • Are intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or influence government policy.
                        • Occur primarily within U.S. jurisdiction.
                        • Full text here.
                        • 18 U.S.C. § 2332b – Defines federal offenses relating to terrorism, including property destruction intended to coerce or retaliate against government actions.
                        • Full text here.

                      2. Federal Arson Statute
                        • 18 U.S.C. § 844(i) – Federal arson law criminalizes the destruction of property affecting interstate or foreign commerce (such as a car dealership).
                        • Punishment includes up to 20 years in prison (or life if injury/death occurs).
                        • Full text here.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Is burning a flag terrorism? If it’s not your flag?

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                        @jon-nyc said in Terrorism?:

                        Is burning a flag terrorism? If it’s not your flag?

                        1. No… 2) There’s a case…

                        Personally? I think discretion is due here. If they are wearing a mask or if they are a part of a known group that uses violence and terror to spread their political ideology such as the Democrat Party Antifa, then it’s terrorism. If it’s some idiot that’s getting their crank wound, then it’s not.

                        However, the attempts to paint the idiots on January 6th as insurrectionist revolutionaries makes me give just a little less of a damn.

                        The Brad

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                          Surely the J6 magats were terrorists if these guys are.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Surely the J6 magats were terrorists if these guys are.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Terrorism?:

                            Surely the J6 magats were terrorists if these guys are.

                            Tourists, Jon, they were tourists.

                            I was only joking

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Surely the J6 magats were terrorists if these guys are.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Terrorism?:

                              Surely the J6 magats were terrorists if these guys are.

                              And some were prosecuted as such. The Proud Boy leader, for one.

                              https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/proud-boys-leaders-sentenced-prison-roles-jan-6-capitol-breach

                              The Brad

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                                Yes. if they could have charged them that way they did.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Terrorism?:

                                  Surely the J6 magats were terrorists if these guys are.

                                  Tourists, Jon, they were tourists.

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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Terrorism?:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Terrorism?:

                                  Surely the J6 magats were terrorists if these guys are.

                                  Tourists, Jon, they were tourists.

                                  You have such a heavy accent!

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                                    Trump weighs in:

                                    Link to video

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                                      89th
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                                      Haha I love the Jan 6 tangent “nobody was killed, except one woman, but nobody was killed” … sorry what does that even mean?

                                      Btw no one was killed in the Tesla arsons either. Silly rabbit.

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                                        Peddle it lad.

                                        Ain't nobody buying it. But do sell harder.

                                        People have had enough of the astroturfed horsehit protests. Especially since it's so hypocritical.

                                        And that the idiots driving this silliness are starting to threaten people who drive a Tesla. That's going over like a turd in a punchbowl.

                                        But do stand on your street corner soapbox and preach your sermon...Just don't be surprised that 80% of the people don't agree with you

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          What am I selling? I was commenting on Trump's silly rambling "no one was killed... I mean except for the people who died lolz... but besides them it was very peaceful, some say the most beautiful day they've ever seen in DC..." (paraphrased, of course)

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