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Not a spine in the whole caucus

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    Ok found it, you can click the PDF link to view the text: https://rules.house.gov/bill/119/hr-PIH-full-year-continuing-appropriations-and-extensions-act-2025

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      #7

      I should note the Feb 1, 2025 date at the end I suppose limits it to these 3 national emergencies that Trump declared that day, basically imposing duties (aka import tax) on Mexico, China, and maybe Canada I haven't checked yet. This somewhat limits his power to those listed in the national emergency details, I think.

      https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14193

      https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14194

      https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14195

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      • MikM Offline
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        #8

        Term limits would go a long way.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          #9

          Don't get all of your politics off of X.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #10

            It's literally in the bill. You can't blame X.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              It's literally in the bill. You can't blame X.

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              Axtremus
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              #11

              @jon-nyc said in Not a spine in the whole caucus:

              You can't blame X.

              Well, it’s Elon’s company after all.

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              • X Offline
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                xenon
                wrote on last edited by xenon
                #12

                It’s working. Can’t call a vote on the tariffs:

                https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/legislative-maneuver-house-republicans-block-vote-trump-tariffs/story?id=119758683

                Trump’s flying solo.

                I remember when “pen and phone” was offensive.

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                • 89th8 Offline
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                  89th
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  Darn, would've been nice to document which representatives indeed were without a spine as their constituents and local businesses are crushed.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #14

                    Maybe they can force an amendment on some other bill to get these spineless pussies on record.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      @xenon @89th @jon-nyc

                      If the senators do not pass the spending bill, what happens to the original one from the representatives? Do that have to draft a new one? (That may or may not include the tariff language?)

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        89th
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                        #16

                        I think it goes back to committee for revision?

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          @xenon @89th @jon-nyc

                          If the senators do not pass the spending bill, what happens to the original one from the representatives? Do that have to draft a new one? (That may or may not include the tariff language?)

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                          xenon
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                          @taiwan_girl said in Not a spine in the whole caucus:

                          @xenon @89th @jon-nyc

                          If the senators do not pass the spending bill, what happens to the original one from the representatives? Do that have to draft a new one? (That may or may not include the tariff language?)

                          I think others understand these sort of procedural things way better than me.

                          Then again Congress is explicitly just giving up their power to the executive, so who knows.

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                            @taiwan_girl said in Not a spine in the whole caucus:

                            @xenon @89th @jon-nyc

                            If the senators do not pass the spending bill, what happens to the original one from the representatives? Do that have to draft a new one? (That may or may not include the tariff language?)

                            I think others understand these sort of procedural things way better than me.

                            Then again Congress is explicitly just giving up their power to the executive, so who knows.

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                            Axtremus
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                            @xenon said in Not a spine in the whole caucus:

                            Then again Congress is explicitly just giving up their power to the executive, so who knows.

                            Chuck Schumer now says he will vote to keep the government funded precisely because he fears a government shutdown will cede even more power to Trump.

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                              xenon
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              This is really wild. Republicans in 2025 stand for isolationism, autarky, unions and large deficits. Imagine floating that at the end of the Obama years.

                              They have a consistent stance on gender though, I guess.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @xenon said in Not a spine in the whole caucus:

                                Then again Congress is explicitly just giving up their power to the executive, so who knows.

                                Chuck Schumer now says he will vote to keep the government funded precisely because he fears a government shutdown will cede even more power to Trump.

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                                @Axtremus said in Not a spine in the whole caucus:

                                @xenon said in Not a spine in the whole caucus:

                                Then again Congress is explicitly just giving up their power to the executive, so who knows.

                                Chuck Schumer now says he will vote to keep the government funded precisely because he fears a government shutdown will cede even more power to Trump.

                                Chuck got his ass handed to him. Gillebrand could literally be heard screaming down the hallway, as the Dems were in their closed door meeting, wanting to know what the hell they were doing.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  xenon
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                                  #21

                                  Honestly don’t know who is more useless right now. Dems or GOP

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                                  • X xenon

                                    Honestly don’t know who is more useless right now. Dems or GOP

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                                    @xenon said in Not a spine in the whole caucus:

                                    Honestly don’t know who is more useless right now. Dems or GOP

                                    Useless to whom? Useful to whom?

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                                      xenon
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #23

                                      To the American people. There is no effective opposition from dems. There is no leadership from GOP

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                                      • X xenon

                                        Honestly don’t know who is more useless right now. Dems or GOP

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #24

                                        @xenon said in Not a spine in the whole caucus:

                                        Honestly don’t know who is more useless right now. Dems or GOP

                                        Quit worrying and enjoy life.

                                        Time to start planning and getting ready for a spring garden.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • 89th8 Offline
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                                          Because the price of vegetables will be… ok I’m done Jolly! 😂

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