Trump Talk

[Jolly]

Nice deflection.

[jon-nyc]

Interesting this coincided with his first SOTU.

[jon-nyc]

Funny comment last night from Andrew Yang: “it’s leg day for the GOP”.

Presumably they were giving a lot of standing ovations.

[LuFins Dad]

[89th]

I haven't finished the speech yet, but does he ever address the European elephant in the room?

[LuFins Dad]

CBS viewer poll, 76% loved the speech.

[LuFins Dad]

@89th said in Trump Talk:

I haven't finished the speech yet, but does he ever address the European elephant in the room?

Yea, that was when he embarrassed Warren.

[89th]

Haha just got to that point. Pocahontas, lol.

[89th]

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:

CBS viewer poll, 76% loved the speech.

All politics aside, since Trump says whatever he wants (he repeated many lies again, but they sound so good), it's not surprising folks who aren't aware they are lies like what they hear.

[Horace]

One of Matt Yglesias's 17 takes:

The decline in the stock market since Trump’s election is not particularly large or noteworthy, but it is genuinely extraordinary to see this kind of market reaction to a new GOP administration whose main policy ideas are to install business-friendly regulators and cut corporate taxes. You have to be making some extraordinarily bad trade policy choices to get that result. There’s been years of speculation that Trump’s trade instincts would be curbed by market reaction, but last night he presented himself as entirely undeterred and eager to levy more tariffs. An extended portion of this speech was dedicated to promising higher taxes on groceries!

[Jolly]

@Horace said in Trump Talk:

One of Matt Yglesias's 17 takes:

The decline in the stock market since Trump’s election is not particularly large or noteworthy, but it is genuinely extraordinary to see this kind of market reaction to a new GOP administration whose main policy ideas are to install business-friendly regulators and cut corporate taxes. You have to be making some extraordinarily bad trade policy choices to get that result. There’s been years of speculation that Trump’s trade instincts would be curbed by market reaction, but last night he presented himself as entirely undeterred and eager to levy more tariffs. An extended portion of this speech was dedicated to promising higher taxes on groceries!

I saw the same CBS poll that LuFinn saw, but other polls such as CNN's showed similar results. Amazing, for a two hour speech. Of course, it didn't hurt the Dems made literal asses of themselves.

Trump believes that jobs and economic prosperity are paramount. The tariffs issue, the emphasis on ship building, the AI initiative, energy production, etc., are all private sector jobs driven. My opinion is that Trump is willing to take a short-term market hit, if jobs can be created.

As for Ukraine, Trump has decided to end that war and it's up to Zelensky to decide how it ends. The Europeans can step up or bend the knee to Moscow. The U.S. have bigger fish to fry in the Pacific.

[Jolly]

Begging for shovels to dig their own graves...

https://pjmedia.com/stephen-kruiser/2025/03/05/the-morning-briefing-dems-at-trumps-speech-beg-for-shovels-to-dig-their-own-graves-n4937567

[jon-nyc]

[Jolly]

Nancy must have had indigestion... This was right after Trump said, "Make America great again!" .

[Renauda]

I had it on the TV in the event he would make some revelatory remarks about the war in Ukraine and his recent extortionist regime of unjustified economic sanctions against Canada. Since nothing revelatory or even particularly relevant was mentioned about either I tended to focus on other tasks while the person on the screen droned on and on.

Throughout it seemed nothing more than the usual theatrical campaign harangue. It was full of slogans, chest pounding and inane asides all containing little, if at all any, substance above and beyond saccharine filled melodrama. In short, tortuous

[Doctor Phibes]

I missed a Donald Trump speech?

Damn, I've been wondering what he was up to.

[jon-nyc]

I didn’t watch it. It’s been a decade plus since I watched these with any regularity. There was a time when I wouldn’t miss them regardless of who was president.

[89th]

I was just interested if there would be any big revelations about the Ukraine strategy since Trump was getting beat up in the media and by world leaders (except Putin), but it was just a regurgitation of his inauguration speech if you even watched that lol. Ending woke (good), taking over territories (greenland and panama canal), lots of lies (inflation, deaths building canal, DOGE cost savings, etc) and lots of focus on building back the american production machine (AI, oil, consumer goods). @Jolly had a good summary above.

[LuFins Dad]

[LuFins Dad]

@89th said in Trump Talk:

I was just interested if there would be any big revelations about the Ukraine strategy since Trump was getting beat up in the media and by world leaders (except Putin), but it was just a regurgitation of his inauguration speech if you even watched that lol. Ending woke (good), taking over territories (greenland and panama canal), lots of lies (inflation, deaths building canal, DOGE cost savings, etc) and lots of focus on building back the american production machine (AI, oil, consumer goods). @Jolly had a good summary above.

You missed the part where he mentioned that he had an hour long call with Zelenskyy and the mineral deal was back on?

You realize that public trust in the media is at an all time low, and is actually upside down? If the media is hammering him it actually helps him? Trump, unfortunately, is walking out of the Friday fiasco stronger than he was going in. The concerns over the tariffs are the biggest driver of negativity, and as soon as they are lifted it will probably swing back again.