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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    Interesting this coincided with his first SOTU.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Funny comment last night from Andrew Yang: “it’s leg day for the GOP”.

      Presumably they were giving a lot of standing ovations.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Interesting this coincided with his first SOTU.

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        @jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:

        Interesting this coincided with his first SOTU.

        What poll? The only recent one that I’ve seen for March is Emerson, and they have him 48-43, which is basically where he was in January with them.

        https://emersoncollegepolling.com/march-2025-national-poll/

        The Brad

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          I haven't finished the speech yet, but does he ever address the European elephant in the room?

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            CBS viewer poll, 76% loved the speech.

            The Brad

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            • 89th8 89th

              I haven't finished the speech yet, but does he ever address the European elephant in the room?

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              @89th said in Trump Talk:

              I haven't finished the speech yet, but does he ever address the European elephant in the room?

              Yea, that was when he embarrassed Warren.

              The Brad

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                Haha just got to that point. Pocahontas, lol.

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  CBS viewer poll, 76% loved the speech.

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:

                  CBS viewer poll, 76% loved the speech.

                  All politics aside, since Trump says whatever he wants (he repeated many lies again, but they sound so good), it's not surprising folks who aren't aware they are lies like what they hear.

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                    One of Matt Yglesias's 17 takes:

                    The decline in the stock market since Trump’s election is not particularly large or noteworthy, but it is genuinely extraordinary to see this kind of market reaction to a new GOP administration whose main policy ideas are to install business-friendly regulators and cut corporate taxes. You have to be making some extraordinarily bad trade policy choices to get that result. There’s been years of speculation that Trump’s trade instincts would be curbed by market reaction, but last night he presented himself as entirely undeterred and eager to levy more tariffs. An extended portion of this speech was dedicated to promising higher taxes on groceries!

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      One of Matt Yglesias's 17 takes:

                      The decline in the stock market since Trump’s election is not particularly large or noteworthy, but it is genuinely extraordinary to see this kind of market reaction to a new GOP administration whose main policy ideas are to install business-friendly regulators and cut corporate taxes. You have to be making some extraordinarily bad trade policy choices to get that result. There’s been years of speculation that Trump’s trade instincts would be curbed by market reaction, but last night he presented himself as entirely undeterred and eager to levy more tariffs. An extended portion of this speech was dedicated to promising higher taxes on groceries!

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                      @Horace said in Trump Talk:

                      One of Matt Yglesias's 17 takes:

                      The decline in the stock market since Trump’s election is not particularly large or noteworthy, but it is genuinely extraordinary to see this kind of market reaction to a new GOP administration whose main policy ideas are to install business-friendly regulators and cut corporate taxes. You have to be making some extraordinarily bad trade policy choices to get that result. There’s been years of speculation that Trump’s trade instincts would be curbed by market reaction, but last night he presented himself as entirely undeterred and eager to levy more tariffs. An extended portion of this speech was dedicated to promising higher taxes on groceries!

                      I saw the same CBS poll that LuFinn saw, but other polls such as CNN's showed similar results. Amazing, for a two hour speech. Of course, it didn't hurt the Dems made literal asses of themselves.

                      Trump believes that jobs and economic prosperity are paramount. The tariffs issue, the emphasis on ship building, the AI initiative, energy production, etc., are all private sector jobs driven. My opinion is that Trump is willing to take a short-term market hit, if jobs can be created.

                      As for Ukraine, Trump has decided to end that war and it's up to Zelensky to decide how it ends. The Europeans can step up or bend the knee to Moscow. The U.S. have bigger fish to fry in the Pacific.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Begging for shovels to dig their own graves...

                        https://pjmedia.com/stephen-kruiser/2025/03/05/the-morning-briefing-dems-at-trumps-speech-beg-for-shovels-to-dig-their-own-graves-n4937567

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:

                          Interesting this coincided with his first SOTU.

                          What poll? The only recent one that I’ve seen for March is Emerson, and they have him 48-43, which is basically where he was in January with them.

                          https://emersoncollegepolling.com/march-2025-national-poll/

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:

                          @jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:

                          Interesting this coincided with his first SOTU.

                          What poll?

                          It’s an average. It incorporates the poll you mentioned.

                          https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/?ex_cid=abcpromo

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Nancy must have had indigestion... This was right after Trump said, "Make America great again!" .

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              I had it on the TV in the event he would make some revelatory remarks about the war in Ukraine and his recent extortionist regime of unjustified economic sanctions against Canada. Since nothing revelatory or even particularly relevant was mentioned about either I tended to focus on other tasks while the person on the screen droned on and on.

                              Throughout it seemed nothing more than the usual theatrical campaign harangue. It was full of slogans, chest pounding and inane asides all containing little, if at all any, substance above and beyond saccharine filled melodrama. In short, tortuous

                              Elbows up!

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                                I missed a Donald Trump speech?

                                Damn, I've been wondering what he was up to.

                                I was only joking

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                                  I didn’t watch it. It’s been a decade plus since I watched these with any regularity. There was a time when I wouldn’t miss them regardless of who was president.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    I was just interested if there would be any big revelations about the Ukraine strategy since Trump was getting beat up in the media and by world leaders (except Putin), but it was just a regurgitation of his inauguration speech if you even watched that lol. Ending woke (good), taking over territories (greenland and panama canal), lots of lies (inflation, deaths building canal, DOGE cost savings, etc) and lots of focus on building back the american production machine (AI, oil, consumer goods). @Jolly had a good summary above.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:

                                      Interesting this coincided with his first SOTU.

                                      What poll?

                                      It’s an average. It incorporates the poll you mentioned.

                                      https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/?ex_cid=abcpromo

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Trump Talk:

                                      Interesting this coincided with his first SOTU.

                                      What poll?

                                      It’s an average. It incorporates the poll you mentioned.

                                      https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/?ex_cid=abcpromo

                                      Yeah, when a Daily Kos poll is one of the primary polls in the average, I’ll move on, thanks.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        I was just interested if there would be any big revelations about the Ukraine strategy since Trump was getting beat up in the media and by world leaders (except Putin), but it was just a regurgitation of his inauguration speech if you even watched that lol. Ending woke (good), taking over territories (greenland and panama canal), lots of lies (inflation, deaths building canal, DOGE cost savings, etc) and lots of focus on building back the american production machine (AI, oil, consumer goods). @Jolly had a good summary above.

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                                        @89th said in Trump Talk:

                                        I was just interested if there would be any big revelations about the Ukraine strategy since Trump was getting beat up in the media and by world leaders (except Putin), but it was just a regurgitation of his inauguration speech if you even watched that lol. Ending woke (good), taking over territories (greenland and panama canal), lots of lies (inflation, deaths building canal, DOGE cost savings, etc) and lots of focus on building back the american production machine (AI, oil, consumer goods). @Jolly had a good summary above.

                                        You missed the part where he mentioned that he had an hour long call with Zelenskyy and the mineral deal was back on?

                                        You realize that public trust in the media is at an all time low, and is actually upside down? If the media is hammering him it actually helps him? Trump, unfortunately, is walking out of the Friday fiasco stronger than he was going in. The concerns over the tariffs are the biggest driver of negativity, and as soon as they are lifted it will probably swing back again.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @89th said in Trump Talk:

                                          I was just interested if there would be any big revelations about the Ukraine strategy since Trump was getting beat up in the media and by world leaders (except Putin), but it was just a regurgitation of his inauguration speech if you even watched that lol. Ending woke (good), taking over territories (greenland and panama canal), lots of lies (inflation, deaths building canal, DOGE cost savings, etc) and lots of focus on building back the american production machine (AI, oil, consumer goods). @Jolly had a good summary above.

                                          You missed the part where he mentioned that he had an hour long call with Zelenskyy and the mineral deal was back on?

                                          You realize that public trust in the media is at an all time low, and is actually upside down? If the media is hammering him it actually helps him? Trump, unfortunately, is walking out of the Friday fiasco stronger than he was going in. The concerns over the tariffs are the biggest driver of negativity, and as soon as they are lifted it will probably swing back again.

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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Talk:

                                          @89th said in Trump Talk:

                                          I was just interested if there would be any big revelations about the Ukraine strategy since Trump was getting beat up in the media and by world leaders (except Putin), but it was just a regurgitation of his inauguration speech if you even watched that lol. Ending woke (good), taking over territories (greenland and panama canal), lots of lies (inflation, deaths building canal, DOGE cost savings, etc) and lots of focus on building back the american production machine (AI, oil, consumer goods). @Jolly had a good summary above.

                                          You missed the part where he mentioned that he had an hour long call with Zelenskyy and the mineral deal was back on?

                                          Yeah I missed that, was trying to listen to it while working this morning.

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