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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @jon-nyc said in Taiwan:

    Especially when we’re still utterly dependent on it for microchips.

    $100B investment. Yesterday.

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    @Jolly said in Taiwan:

    @jon-nyc said in Taiwan:

    Especially when we’re still utterly dependent on it for microchips.

    $100B investment. Yesterday.

    Well, technically none yet. But $25 billion each year for the next 4 years. It's a start... well I guess Biden's "CHIPS" act was a start. Anyway...

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    • 89th8 89th

      @Jolly said in Taiwan:

      @jon-nyc said in Taiwan:

      Especially when we’re still utterly dependent on it for microchips.

      $100B investment. Yesterday.

      Well, technically none yet. But $25 billion each year for the next 4 years. It's a start... well I guess Biden's "CHIPS" act was a start. Anyway...

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      Jolly
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      @89th said in Taiwan:

      @Jolly said in Taiwan:

      @jon-nyc said in Taiwan:

      Especially when we’re still utterly dependent on it for microchips.

      $100B investment. Yesterday.

      Well, technically none yet. But $25 billion each year for the next 4 years. It's a start... well I guess Biden's "CHIPS" act was a start. Anyway...

      Biden didn't get shit, except in his pants.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @jon-nyc said in Taiwan:

        Especially when we’re still utterly dependent on it for microchips.

        $100B investment. Yesterday.

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        jon-nyc
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        #14

        @Jolly said in Taiwan:

        @jon-nyc said in Taiwan:

        Especially when we’re still utterly dependent on it for microchips.

        $100B investment. Yesterday.

        We’re a third of the way through an earlier 65B investment from the same company. But it takes years.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          Jolly
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          Make up your mind.

          If it happens on Trump's watch, it's his.

          Trump is pushing jobs. Less illegals taking jobs. Legal immigrants in skills shortage areas. Education dollars in block grants, allowing states to fund vo-tech programs. Tariffs that makes manufacturing in the U.S. more attractive (Honda is moving a planned plant from Mexico to Indiana, as announced yesterday).

          And OTOH, Trump is actually going to cut jobs...Government jobs. Hopefully, that means more money in the private sector, along with less debt, since not as much money is needed by the government.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            jon-nyc
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            #16

            The 100B announced the other day is on top of the 65B from a few years ago. Even that previous is only 1/3 spent (roughly, 1 of 3 planned fabs built) as it takes years and years to build chip fabs. It’s not clear China plans on waiting for us. That was my point.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Jolly
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              Gotta start somewhere.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                jon-nyc
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                #18

                You do. But the point is that the investment isn’t a reason why we don’t need to care about Taiwans fate. Maybe it’s a reason we won’t need to in 10 years.

                But today, Operation Hellscape is our friend.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  #19

                  Taiwan is definitely happening on Trump's watch. Of course he will stand by. Russia and China both have that red button to flaunt and are more willing to use it when it's one guy's choice. What are the guardrails preventing our new autocrat from doing the same? But it goes against what they live for, power. Once the missiles start flying, the only power they will have if they survive is over the cockroaches. Do you think of the thousands of missiles both China and Russia possess, that one or two are aimed at Sardinia? If not, we can survive on seafood and 4 million sheep for a long long time.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @jon-nyc said in Taiwan:

                    Especially when we’re still utterly dependent on it for microchips.

                    $100B investment. Yesterday.

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                    @Jolly said in Taiwan:

                    $100B investment. Yesterday.

                    https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2025/03/05/2003832893

                    The government would ensure that the most advanced chipmaking technology stays in Taiwan while assisting Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC, 台積電) in investing overseas, the Presidential Office said yesterday.

                    The statement follows a joint announcement by the world’s largest contract chipmaker and US President Donald Trump on Monday that TSMC would invest an additional US$100 billion over the next four years to expand its semiconductor manufacturing operations in the US, which would include construction of three new chip fabrication plants, two advanced packaging facilities, and a research and development center.

                    The government knew about the deal in advance and would assist, Presidential Office spokesperson Karen Kuo (郭雅慧) said yesterday.

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #21

                      That is a complication. We want to liberate ourselves from dependence on Taiwan and they very much want us not to do so, in order that we have more skin in the Taiwan straight game.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Would Taiwan like to be the 51st of the United States?

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          Would Taiwan like to be the 51st of the United States?

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                          @Axtremus said in Taiwan:

                          Would Taiwan like to be the 51st of the United States?

                          No. 555

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            @Axtremus said in Taiwan:

                            Would Taiwan like to be the 51st of the United States?

                            No. 555

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                            #24

                            @Axtremus asked in Taiwan:
                            Would Taiwan like to be the 51st of the United States?

                            @taiwan_girl replied in [Taiwan]

                            No. 555

                            I know the feeling. Nor do we.

                            555

                            Elbows up!

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                              and before that

                              Taiwan detected 27 sorties of Chinese aircraft, six Chinese vessels and one Chinese balloon until 6 am (local time) on Thursday, a statement by Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defence said.

                              out of 27 sorties, 20 crossed the median line and entered Taiwan’s southwestern ADIZ.

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                                Somewhat related...

                                https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/1jgeswz/chinas_no_2_zhang_youxia_military_uniform_is/

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