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Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake

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    Klaus
    wrote on 12 Mar 2025, 08:29 last edited by
    #26

    But let's say the study again finds no link between vaccines and autism.

    It wouldn't convince the hardcore conspiracy theorists, but it might persuade people who are on the fence that the previous science was legit, no? In that sense, it might be a good thing.

    The two other potential outcomes are: The study finds a link, but the study was manipulated to find that link - well, that would be bad, I guess. The last outcome: The study finds a link and that link is real - I guess we would want to know that, even though it seems very unlikely based on what we know.

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      Moonbat
      wrote on 12 Mar 2025, 14:04 last edited by Moonbat 3 Dec 2025, 14:07
      #27

      "But let's say the study again finds no link between vaccines and autism."

      https://clip.cafe/family-guy-1999/coming-up-next-can-bees-think/

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        Mik
        wrote on 12 Mar 2025, 16:55 last edited by
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        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 02:34 last edited by jon-nyc
          #29

          RFK forced out Dr Peter Marks, head of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research at FDA, which oversees vaccines.

          He was given the choice to be fired or resign.

          In his resignation letter he said he had been willing to work with Kennedy but that “it has become clear that truth and transparency are not desired by the Secretary, but rather he wishes subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies”

          I’ve met with him several times and was always impressed with his desire to get treatments to patients. Gene therapy fell under him and he was a champion of its possibilities.

          Can’t wait to see what dangerous crank he replaces him with.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 14:02 last edited by
            #30

            Silos & Fiefdoms

            https://amgreatness.com/2025/03/28/rfk-jr-unveils-plan-to-transform-hhs-into-maha-powerhouse-were-going-to-do-more-with-less

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 14:34 last edited by jon-nyc
              #31

              “We’re not going to cut Medicaid. We’re not going to cut Medicare,” he stated firmly.

              Is there any on TNCR that believes this?

              Anyone at all?

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 14:37 last edited by
                #32

                @jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

                I’ve met with him several times and was always impressed with his desire to get treatments to patients. Gene therapy fell under him and he was a champion of its possibilities.

                Can’t wait to see what dangerous crank he replaces him with.

                I suspect there’s a high correlation between antivaxx thinking and anti-GMO thinking among the granola chick/MAHA crank set.

                I hope that doesn’t spill over into anti-gene therapy in humans.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 15:56 last edited by
                  #33

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 19:09 last edited by jon-nyc
                    #34

                    In his resignation letter he said he had been willing to work with Kennedy but that “it has become clear that truth and transparency are not desired by the Secretary, but rather he wishes subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies”

                    I’d be curious to know if anyone doubts this about RFk. Like do you think someone could carefully walk Kennedy through the existing evidence and he’d be like ‘Oh, yeah. Now I get it.’

                    Or has his internalization of the many non-falsifiable retorts of the anti-vax community rendered him unable to accept any conclusion except the one pre-formed in his head years ago?

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 20:20 last edited by
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                      I hope he goes public with some more details about his interactions with RFK that led him to conclude that truth and transparency has no place. I'm will listen, but until then, we have one side of a story that began with Dr Marks being asked to leave, by RFK.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 14 May 2025, 23:35 last edited by
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                          Horace
                          wrote on 15 May 2025, 00:01 last edited by
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                          He's already on record a month ago saying the MMR measles vaccine is the best way to prevent measles outbreaks.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 15 May 2025, 00:23 last edited by
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                            And on record before that calling it a holocaust.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 15 May 2025, 01:10 last edited by
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                              He frequently contradicts himself, essentially meaning you can't believe he means anything he says.

                              I was only joking

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 16 May 2025, 01:14 last edited by
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                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 16 May 2025, 02:35 last edited by
                                  #41

                                  Tough love.

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 9 Jun 2025, 22:27 last edited by
                                    #42

                                    RFK fired everybody on the vaccine advisory committee.

                                    Senator Cassidy seems to know what's coming.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 9 Jun 2025, 23:23 last edited by
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                                      I don't know that a bunch of people denying the science of vaccines constitutes a serious lack of public confidence. More like a lack of sense.

                                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        27 Feb 2025, 15:10

                                        Thinking through his presidential examples. Guys my age might remember the ‘President’s Physical Fitness Test’. I looked it up, it’s from the Nixon administration. And it was inspired by an Eisenhower initiative.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote 5 days ago last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

                                        Thinking through his presidential examples. Guys my age might remember the ‘President’s Physical Fitness Test’. I looked it up, it’s from the Nixon administration. And it was inspired by an Eisenhower initiative.

                                        Trump just signed an EO bringing this back.

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          jodi
                                          wrote 4 days ago last edited by
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                                          I remember that. The only thing I could not do was throw the ball far enough. Did the boys do pull -ups? We did something called the flexed arm hang.

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