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RIP Gene Hackman

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 01:45 last edited by
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    Double suicide maybe? Maybe one had terminal health issue?

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    • D Doctor Phibes
      27 Feb 2025, 19:43

      @Mik said in RIP Gene Hackman:

      An open prescription bottle of WHAT exactly? And no one kills themself in the mud room.

      It would be tough to get a dog to swallow enough pills to kill it, and why not the other two dogs? CO is the only thing that makes any sense.

      He could have died naturally, and then she took her own life with the pills. Not sure how to explain the dog.

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      89th
      wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 02:28 last edited by
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      @Doctor-Phibes said in RIP Gene Hackman:

      @Mik said in RIP Gene Hackman:

      An open prescription bottle of WHAT exactly? And no one kills themself in the mud room.

      It would be tough to get a dog to swallow enough pills to kill it, and why not the other two dogs? CO is the only thing that makes any sense.

      He could have died naturally, and then she took her own life with the pills. Not sure how to explain the dog.

      Had the same thought. Maybe heart attack by Gene, suicide by his wife, and forgot about one of their 3 dogs who unfortunately starved to death. But who knows… maybe he found her, then went downstairs and fell out of panic and…

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        27 Feb 2025, 19:43

        @Mik said in RIP Gene Hackman:

        An open prescription bottle of WHAT exactly? And no one kills themself in the mud room.

        It would be tough to get a dog to swallow enough pills to kill it, and why not the other two dogs? CO is the only thing that makes any sense.

        He could have died naturally, and then she took her own life with the pills. Not sure how to explain the dog.

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        89th
        wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 02:29 last edited by
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        @Doctor-Phibes said in RIP Gene Hackman:

        @Mik said in RIP Gene Hackman:

        An open prescription bottle of WHAT exactly? And no one kills themself in the mud room.

        It would be tough to get a dog to swallow enough pills to kill it, and why not the other two dogs? CO is the only thing that makes any sense.

        He could have died naturally, and then she took her own life with the pills. Not sure how to explain the dog.

        Had the same thought. Maybe heart attack by Gene, suicide by his wife, and forgot about one of their 3 dogs who unfortunately starved to death. But who knows… maybe he found her, then went downstairs and fell out of panic and…

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 28 Feb 2025, 19:09 last edited by
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          Dead for “days or possibly weeks”

          The wife showed “mummification in both hands and feet”

          Dead dog was “in a closet in the bathroom”.

          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/28/us/gene-hackman-death-updates.html

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 1 Mar 2025, 16:40 last edited by jon-nyc 3 Jan 2025, 16:41
            #25

            Pacemaker data indicates he died 9 days before they found him.

            CO poisoning ruled out.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 22:11 last edited by jon-nyc 7 days from now
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              Now they’re saying she died first from hantavirus, which you catch from rodent excrement, which causes respiratory failure. She died around A WEEK before he did.

              He had Alzheimer’s which might explain why he didn’t report his wife’s condition or perhaps even notice she was dead. He died from heart disease.

              Now I read the dead dog was crated. They don’t say explicitly but starvation/thirst would be the logical explanation. Must have sucked to be that dog for its last days.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 22:25 last edited by
                #27

                That makes more sense. Early reports mentioned that she had decomposed, but nothing about him, indicating that she had died first.

                Poor dog.

                The Brad

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                  7 Mar 2025, 22:11

                  Now they’re saying she died first from hantavirus, which you catch from rodent excrement, which causes respiratory failure. She died around A WEEK before he did.

                  He had Alzheimer’s which might explain why he didn’t report his wife’s condition or perhaps even notice she was dead. He died from heart disease.

                  Now I read the dead dog was crated. They don’t say explicitly but starvation/thirst would be the logical explanation. Must have sucked to be that dog for its last days.

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                  Rich
                  wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 22:32 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                  Now they’re saying she died first from hantavirus, which you catch from rodent excrement, which causes respiratory failure. She died around A WEEK before he did.

                  He had Alzheimer’s which might explain why he didn’t report his wife’s condition or perhaps even notice she was dead. He died from heart disease.

                  Now I read the dead dog was crated. They don’t say explicitly but starvation/thirst would be the logical explanation. Must have sucked to be that dog for its last days.

                  Well that sounds awful all around.

                  There have been a number of discussions in Piano Tech Journals/forums over the years warning how not to deal with mouse poop commonly found inside pianos. Particularly in south western states, how important it is not to simply use a shop-vac. The disease itself is fairly uncommon, but the mortality rate is quite high.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 22:37 last edited by jon-nyc 7 days from now
                    #29

                    She was a classical pianist. I wonder if her exposure was related to her piano.

                    By the way, the pills found around her were totally unrelated to the illness. The article said what they were for, something common and I already forgot.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      7 Mar 2025, 22:37

                      She was a classical pianist. I wonder if her exposure was related to her piano.

                      By the way, the pills found around her were totally unrelated to the illness. The article said what they were for, something common and I already forgot.

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                      Tom-K
                      wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 23:43 last edited by Tom-K 7 days from now
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                      @jon-nyc said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                      She was a classical pianist. I wonder if her exposure was related to her piano.

                      It is a well know documented fact that the better a person can play the piano the more abbreviated their lives.

                      From my playing ability I look to live well beyond 90, maybe even to 100. I wish you all well.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 23:49 last edited by Renauda 7 days from now
                        #31

                        Very sad and from what I have read, they were both loved and respected in their community. I am sure that as sick as she was with the Hanta Fever her first concern was her husband.

                        To die so alone like that….

                        Elbows up!

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                          89th
                          wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 23:55 last edited by
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                          Nightmare. That sucks.

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                          • Tom-KT Tom-K
                            7 Mar 2025, 23:43

                            @jon-nyc said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                            She was a classical pianist. I wonder if her exposure was related to her piano.

                            It is a well know documented fact that the better a person can play the piano the more abbreviated their lives.

                            From my playing ability I look to live well beyond 90, maybe even to 100. I wish you all well.

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                            kluurs
                            wrote on 8 Mar 2025, 01:57 last edited by kluurs 3 Aug 2025, 01:58
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                            @Tom-K said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                            @jon-nyc said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                            She was a classical pianist. I wonder if her exposure was related to her piano.

                            It is a well know documented fact that the better a person can play the piano the more abbreviated their lives.

                            From my playing ability I look to live well beyond 90, maybe even to 100. I wish you all well.
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                            I am immortal. Dammed autocorrect wanted it to be immoral.

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                            • kluursK kluurs
                              8 Mar 2025, 01:57

                              @Tom-K said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                              @jon-nyc said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                              She was a classical pianist. I wonder if her exposure was related to her piano.

                              It is a well know documented fact that the better a person can play the piano the more abbreviated their lives.

                              From my playing ability I look to live well beyond 90, maybe even to 100. I wish you all well.
                              ——-——-

                              I am immortal. Dammed autocorrect wanted it to be immoral.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 8 Mar 2025, 04:18 last edited by
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                              @kluurs said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                              @Tom-K said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                              @jon-nyc said in RIP Gene Hackman:

                              She was a classical pianist. I wonder if her exposure was related to her piano.

                              It is a well know documented fact that the better a person can play the piano the more abbreviated their lives.

                              From my playing ability I look to live well beyond 90, maybe even to 100. I wish you all well.
                              ——-——-

                              I am immortal. Dammed autocorrect wanted it to be immoral.

                              Both work…

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 9 Mar 2025, 22:52 last edited by
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                                He looked all of his 95 years. Don’t imagine I’d recognize him on the street at this age.

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                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 11 Mar 2025, 01:44 last edited by taiwan_girl 3 Nov 2025, 01:45
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                                  Sad.

                                  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpv419jp3v9o

                                  Actor Gene Hackman was alone.

                                  The two-time Academy Award winner didn't make any calls and missed meals.

                                  Medical experts say it's possible the 95-year-old, who was in declining health and suffering from advanced stages of Alzheimer's disease, did not even realise his wife of more than 30 years was dead in the home where he was living.

                                  If he did, experts told the BBC, he likely went through various stages of confusion and grief, trying to wake her up before the disease caused him to become distracted or too overwhelmed to act - a process that likely repeated for days before he, too, died.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on 17 Apr 2025, 02:29 last edited by
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                                    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gene-hackman-betsy-arakawa-death-home-pictures-b2734409.html

                                    Gene Hackman’s home was in disarray when he died, covered in loose items and food while infested with rats, creating a breeding ground for the deadly virus that killed his wife.

                                    Shocking new photos and video from inside the couple’s New Mexico home show the disarray inside when police found the couple dead.

                                    I am not a "neat freak", but I do like a clean house.

                                    Well, apparently, they were not very good housekeepers.

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