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  • MikM Offline
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    wrote last edited by Mik
    #983

    Why would they at this point? It really doesn't make sense unless something has happened at high levels in Iran.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
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      #984

      Like I said, I can't make heads or tails of it.

      Maybe it’s just Trump trying to calm con down the markets.

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        Like I said, I can't make heads or tails of it.

        Maybe it’s just Trump trying to calm con down the markets.

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        @Renauda said:

        Like I said, I can't make heads or tails of it.

        Maybe it’s just Trump trying to calm con down the markets.

        Some folks are a little suspicious of the size of some well-timed market speculation tied to Trump's pronouncements.

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          #986

          Yes, I have heard reports. They say a few windfalls were to be had.

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            Like I said, I can't make heads or tails of it.

            Maybe it’s just Trump trying to calm con down the markets.

            MikM Offline
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            @Renauda said:

            Like I said, I can't make heads or tails of it.

            Maybe it’s just Trump trying to calm con down the markets.

            That was the alternative I was thinking of.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              • MikM Offline
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                wrote last edited by
                #989

                I have a feeling no one is really in charge in Iran.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-war-updates-tehran-says-trump-s-claim-us-wants-deal-is-fake-news/ar-AA1ZmtKi

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • 89th8 Online
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                  Funny, just yesterday as Trump was talking about these deal makers, I was thinking (and truly I'm no expert at all), who exactly is in charge in that country to make decisions?

                  I'm not really sure what the goal is here, last year I thought we wiped out all of their nuke bomb facilities. Guess not? Maybe we should've waited for there to be mass protests in the street and then fly in overheads and wipe out the leadership the people were protesting against, then let the protest momentum continue?

                  Right now we seem to be in the business of creating bomb vacuums against an enemy whose defense strategy is to randomly shoot missiles and drones at everyone around them while shitting in their own pool so no one can swim.

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                  • MikM Mik

                    I have a feeling no one is really in charge in Iran.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-war-updates-tehran-says-trump-s-claim-us-wants-deal-is-fake-news/ar-AA1ZmtKi

                    RenaudaR Offline
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                    #991

                    @Mik said:

                    I have a feeling no one is really in charge in Iran.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-war-updates-tehran-says-trump-s-claim-us-wants-deal-is-fake-news/ar-AA1ZmtKi

                    According to BBC reporting the Iranians have said that right now “the US is negotiating with itself”:
                    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t?post=asset%3Ac827718d-a478-4809-aba4-dcf6f4f1dcc5#post

                    Not sure who the one telling the fibs is in this game of smoke and mirrors.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @Mik said:

                      I have a feeling no one is really in charge in Iran.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-war-updates-tehran-says-trump-s-claim-us-wants-deal-is-fake-news/ar-AA1ZmtKi

                      According to BBC reporting the Iranians have said that right now “the US is negotiating with itself”:
                      https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t?post=asset%3Ac827718d-a478-4809-aba4-dcf6f4f1dcc5#post

                      Not sure who the one telling the fibs is in this game of smoke and mirrors.

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      @Renauda said:

                      Not sure who the one telling the fibs is in this game of smoke and mirrors.

                      We've actually reached the point where we can't be sure who is less trustworthy, the Iranian government or the POTUS.

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

                        It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                          #994

                          Iran issues its own maximalist conditions to end the war…..

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t?post=asset%3A95cce47e-33a2-4b62-a70f-e08d18561586#post

                          Seems that the Iranians were correct, Trump’s team has been negotiating these past couple of days with itself.

                          Looks like there’ll be US boots on the ground sooner rather than later.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            Iran issues its own maximalist conditions to end the war…..

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t?post=asset%3A95cce47e-33a2-4b62-a70f-e08d18561586#post

                            Seems that the Iranians were correct, Trump’s team has been negotiating these past couple of days with itself.

                            Looks like there’ll be US boots on the ground sooner rather than later.

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                            @Renauda Unfortunately, I agree.

                            Of the five points mentioned in the article, #1 is the only one that would have any sort of possible of happening. Definitely compromises will probably have to be done on both sides. From a practical point of view, the US obviously is in the stronger position, but the longer this goes on, public opinion, etc. almost balances that out for the Iranians.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

                              It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

                              RenaudaR Offline
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                              wrote last edited by Renauda
                              #996

                              @jon-nyc said:

                              Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

                              It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

                              Maybe the Iranian equivalent to Rudolf Hess?

                              Or maybe someone who approached Steve Witkoff through his associate Kirill Dimitriev?

                              Elbows up!

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                @jon-nyc said:

                                Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

                                It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

                                Maybe the Iranian equivalent to Rudolf Hess?

                                Or maybe someone who approached Steve Witkoff through his associate Kirill Dimitriev?

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                                @Renauda said:

                                @jon-nyc said:

                                Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

                                It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

                                Maybe the Iranian equivalent to Rudolf Hess?

                                Exactly.

                                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                  Whoever it is be rest assured Witkoff can vouch for him.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi: "The fact that they are now talking about negotiations is an admission of defeat; didn’t they claim unconditional surrender before?

                                    So why are they now mobilizing their top officials to negotiate?"

                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/what-did-iran-give-trump-he-called-the-gift-a-very-nice-thing/ar-AA1Zof3M?cvpid=125c35425ae547f88dd2b01f439bf94e

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                        Interesting ‘pressure index’ created by Deutsche Bank doing a kind of technical analysis on the TACO trade.

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                                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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